Those Who Lost Old Red Guard Access

[Caveat Emperor]

Originally Posted by peterose00

But now you don't have to even act as if we "little brains" exist. We don't in your new world.

As previously stated, if you don't like the direction the owners and operators of the board have decided to take, please feel free to find someplace else to post.

(I'd suggest one with big print and small words -- we wouldn't want your "little brain" to get overstimulated. )

Its a big internet and nobody is forcing you to stay. But, I suspect your intention isn't to find a good place to talk baseball.

[Boss-Hog]

Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor

As previously stated, if you don't like the direction the owners and operators of the board have decided to take, please feel free to find someplace else to post.

(I'd suggest one with big print and small words -- we wouldn't want your "little brain" to get overstimulated. )

Its a big internet and nobody is forcing you to stay. But, I suspect your intention isn't to find a good place to talk baseball.

Agreed. Peterose00, if you want to constructively criticize or question the changes, have at it, as plenty of others have been doing. If you want to continue to spew the same mindless insults at us that you've been repeatedly using for the past day, with no substance behind it, find somewhere else to do so.

[sonny]

Originally Posted by paintmered

GIK is taking a much deserved mini-break from the board tonight so I'm going to try my best to answer in his absence.

The reasons were multi-fold:

1) The admins wanted to make ORG the feature of Redszone. They want to make the two synonymous. ORG = Redszone and vice versa. It's also the reason why ORG has a game thread and the SD does not.

The whole point of the reputation system was to dangle a carrot in front of new posters. That carrot was ORG. Except it didn't work because everyone had posting access to RL. Many ORG posters posted new threads and used RL as their default forum as activity on ORG reduced further. ORG became less and less of a carrot. I think the changes restore ORG to its original intent.

We played around with a few other ideas, but it was only the complete separation of forums that allowed ORG to be the centerpiece of Redszone. Everything else was a variation of the status quo.

2) Quite a few ORG (not all) posters didn't place nice with new posters in RL. Discussions we've had many times were dealt with negatively when brought up by a new poster (ignorant of the history here). That was completely unfair to the new posters.

I think there were a few additional reasons, but those are the biggies.

I can appreciate that. thanks.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by TC81190

I'm tired of it, I'm going to go somewhere where I can discuss Reds baseball without all the bull.

I think all things are best in moderation and this is especially true of baseball blogs/boards. God bless the Redszone moderators I say....

The Redszone is one of the better baseball communities online (largely through the dedication of a very small few who take on alot of responsibility)-think SOSH, USSM etc except here we get an extreme amount of freedom and ability to express our thoughts and ideas. This place is more than a privilege...it's a godsend IMHO.

Please revisit your decision and continue to add your two cents here and make this place even better.

[dougdirt]

I have a question that I really didn't think of until today.... but in the old style those with ORG status could basically post anywhere. Now I can only post in the ORG and not in the sundeck (or whatever its called, I dont want to hit back to double check and lose this post) and I was wondering why it really was this way. Even though I had access to the ORG for quite a while, most of my comments made toward the big league club were usually in what is now the sundeck due to more users and more topics to choose from that I ended up having more input on. Since things have changed, there really has not been a topic in the ORG that I really have wanted to chime in on, but there have been about 10 in the sundeck I wanted to discuss, but couldnt. Anyways, just looking for why that change was put into place.

[dfs]

Not to speak for the moderators, but I've been given two reasons that ORG members lost access to the sundeck.

#1 Overly aggressive members of the ORG intimidated newcomers from posting. Thus new non-confrontational posters were being driven away.

#2 The mods feel that ORG is the heart of the board. If you're good enough to post there, the bulk of your baseball posts should be there.

I miss the ability to interact with every thread I want to, but I understand the reason for the restraints.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by dfs

Not to speak for the moderators, but I've been given two reasons that ORG members lost access to the sundeck.

#1 Overly aggressive members of the ORG intimidated newcomers from posting. Thus new non-confrontational posters were being driven away.

#2 The mods feel that ORG is the heart of the board. If you're good enough to post there, the bulk of your baseball posts should be there.

I miss the ability to interact with every thread I want to, but I understand the reason for the restraints.

I think another important reason was the notion that ORG member posts would dilute the contributions of aspiring SD members.

[Natty Redlocks]

Also, on the Sun Deck we gets juice boxes and there aren't enough for all the big peoples.

[Joseph]

Right Doug, what dfs and jojo said are the major reason, aside from the truth about the juiceboxes of course.

[membengal]

Yeah, juice boxes mess up my constitution. Unless they are prune juice boxes, of course...

[Redus]

So I made it into the ORG after getting rep from people I do not know..and now Im banished from it for doing nothing wrong.......hmmm ok. I dont really understand that but its your site and I respect that. Now if only The Reds didnt suck so hard...

[Dracodave]

Originally Posted by Natty Redlocks

Also, on the Sun Deck we gets juice boxes and there aren't enough for all the big peoples.

And you know what?

We are the assiant coaches around here, and you know are jobs? To agree with the coaches and get them juices boxes when their thristy.

Who do they think their talking to?

You might ask. We are the juicebox boys and girls.

Their crazy!

Their not crazy, just thristy.

Go to hell, Im no ones juicebox boy/girl

No, you go to hell and when you're there...get them a juicebox!

[jmcclain19]

Originally Posted by smith288

Boss and GIK could easily just made this a money maker, putting ads between each post, merchandise affiliations, donation requests every weekend.

But they dont. They run an honest to God forum meant to stimulate quality Reds discussion. Thats worth the time here. People behind it want it to be more than $$$.

I'm a big fan of merchandise affiliations. Seriously - the Redszone Thong. The Redszone Beer Coozie.

GIK & Boss - Think about it guys.

[MaineRed]

I find this new system to be a sham.

Folks who don't have access to ORG are supposed to continue to post on Sundeck while waiting to be voted into ORG by people who have no reason to be reading the post on Sundeck (they can't reply so why even go there)?

So how is anyone who folks don't know supposed to ever get voted into ORG? The whole system is contingent on ORG members paying attention to what is going on in a forum they can't post at. It is crazy.

[TeamBoone]

Rest assured, a whole lot of ORG members still read threads on the Sun Deck.

In addition, you can apply for ORG status. See the appropriately named thread on this forum.