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06-28-2007, 01:38 PM
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Ojo Rojo
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Player A and Player B
Last year, in what most considered a great year for him, Player A hit .274/.388/.569 with 41 HR, 118 RBI, and 18 SB. He was touted as one of the best all-around offensive players in the game and made $13,571,428 for his services.
This year, Player B is on pace to hit .270/.359/.569 with 45 HR, 108 RBI, and 14 SB. He makes $ 10,500,000 this year and is due $13,500,000 in 2008. He has been routinely criticized for his strikeouts, lack of effort, and underachieving. My question is this: If Player B continues at his current level of offensive production, wouldn't he be well worth the salary he is due next year? Discuss. |
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06-28-2007, 01:45 PM
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My clutch is broken
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Re: Player A and Player B
I have no idea who Player B is. Has he ever been discussed here before?
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06-28-2007, 01:47 PM
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Re: Player A and Player B
Player B doesn't have enough sacrifice fly's to warrant $13 million.
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06-28-2007, 01:52 PM
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Stat Wanker Hodiernus
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Re: Player A and Player B
You forgot to mention that Player A was a GG CF and Player B was an iron glove LF.
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06-28-2007, 01:53 PM
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My clutch is broken
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Re: Player A and Player B
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06-28-2007, 01:56 PM
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Ojo Rojo
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06-28-2007, 01:57 PM
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Ojo Rojo
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06-28-2007, 01:58 PM
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Ojo Rojo
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06-28-2007, 02:01 PM
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Re: Player A and Player B
Player A's 2007 salary = 11.7% of his team's overall salary
Player B's 2007 salary = 15.1% of his team's overall salary I bring this up because it's my way of saying "it depends." Is Player B worth ~$13M on the open market as a free agent? Easily... Is he worth that to a team that is 20th in MLB in salary? Dunno. If the other corresponding pieces were in place for a playoff run, then certainly it would be worth it, and thus, Player B's salary would be closer to the 11% than the 15% range.
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06-28-2007, 02:07 PM
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Re: Player A and Player B
Andruw Jones could be compared to both player A and B.. And I know he is going to get a huge contract even though he has had a down year.
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06-28-2007, 02:08 PM
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This one's for you Edd
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Re: Player A and Player B
Man, I loved Player A on my fantasy team last year.
This year, not so much.
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06-28-2007, 02:11 PM
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06-28-2007, 02:14 PM
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Re: Player A and Player B
Positions are very key for those stats though. Player A was easily the best hitter at his position last year and probably one of the top defenders there as well. Player B was not the best hitter at his position and is at the bottom of the defensive ladder at his position. Player A plays a very important defensive position. Player B does not.
Huge difference.
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06-28-2007, 02:20 PM
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06-28-2007, 02:24 PM
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Re: Player A and Player B
I would probably support a trade of player B for a good return. But I agree that if he keeps up this rate he will be worth his 2008 salary. He is having a great offensive year.
But -- player B is prone to slumps and it is far from certain he will keep up this pace. And even if you pay player B for next year, then what? He is a pending FA then, with trade restrictions. Unless Reds keep him just for next year's World Series run. |
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