Does anyone else find it fishy that Bonds made up so many votes in the final days? - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

GriffeyFan · 07-02-2007, 07:55 PM

One report that I heard said he made up approx. 300,00 votes while another said 130,000. Either way, that's a huge bump in a matter of days.

I haven't scanned the internet for conspiracy theories but I did hear one radio guy float the idea.

Tom Servo · 07-02-2007, 07:56 PM

His ballot took steroids.

Stormy · 07-02-2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

His ballot took steroids.

OldXOhio · 07-02-2007, 08:14 PM

I don't care how it happened, I'm glad it did. Always like seeing the host team's reaction to their player(s) that make the team. Will make for an even more electric atmosphere seeing the soon to be HR king receiving numerous accolades from the Giants faithful.

westofyou · 07-02-2007, 08:22 PM

Any Reds fan who quibbles about votes should check the AS Game and their teams history with fan voting.

dougdirt · 07-02-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Any Reds fan who quibbles about votes should check the AS Game and their teams history with fan voting.

We (ok, probably not all of us, but Reds fans) ruined fan voting for over a decade. To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing it go back to no fan voting. It would take away non deserving players.

red-in-la · 07-02-2007, 08:54 PM

So, because people (Reds fans) did it in the past, then it is OK to do it again for Bonds?

If I were JR I would tell the manager that if Bonds goes to the outfield without a drug test, I am walking of the field.

What I distain about Bonds is what he is doing to Hammerin' Hank. Nobody overcame more than Aaron to beat out the Babe. To have a slimmy self absorbed character like Bonds ruin all of it is sickening.

This precisely why I have balked at putting Pete in the HOF. You crown him as Mr. Baseball in doing so and make him a hero figure to kids who cannot see his shortcomings.

remdog · 07-02-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by red-in-la

So, because people (Reds fans) did it in the past, then it is OK to do it again for Bonds?

What I distain about Bonds is what he is doing to Hammerin' Hank. Nobody overcame more than Aaron to beat out the Babe. To have a slimmy self absorbed character like Bonds ruin all of it is sickening.

Yikes! I actually find myself agreeing with rila (at least the above part)!

Some show on ESPN this morning was commenting on this topic. Their speculation was that, since ballots are not verified (i.e., like the Oscars), that MLB may have fudged the count as a way to avoid the embarrassment of naming Bonds to the team in his hometown and during his attempt to pass Aaron. In other words, a way for Bud the Pud to not have to make a decision that he might find 'awkward'.

Rem

4256 Hits · 07-02-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Any Reds fan who quibbles about votes should check the AS Game and their teams history with fan voting.

The Reds were still running ads in June saying go out and vote all the Reds starters to the all star game. I thought yea David Ross should be an All-Star starter.

OldRightHander · 07-02-2007, 10:06 PM

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The Reds were still running ads in June saying go out and vote all the Reds starters to the all star game. I thought yea David Ross should be an All-Star starter.

That ad really bugged me. Anyone who is a real baseball fan will respect the integrity of the game well enough to vote for the best player at each position, but I think there aren't enough fans who see it that way. I have seen people at the games who sit there and just punch all the Reds players, while I take forever completing mine because I'm looking at each position and trying to pick the most deserving player, even if he plays for a team I don't like.

remdog · 07-02-2007, 10:14 PM

So....back to the question: was Bond's election fixed?

Rem

jojo · 07-02-2007, 10:19 PM

I'm still pissed that the Yankees aren't playing the Redsox in the all-star game....and they say this one counts....ya right....

OldRightHander · 07-02-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by remdog

So....back to the question: was Bond's election fixed?

Rem

Seems fishy to me, unless that many Giants fans actually stuffed the ballot in the last week.

redsfan30 · 07-02-2007, 10:26 PM

Yes, I've wondered this myself.

Seems fishy that the tough decision on Bonds making the team or not now doesn't have to be made thanks to a massive vote make-up for a player people hate.

Yep, something stinks about that.

Big Klu · 07-02-2007, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by remdog

Yikes! I actually find myself agreeing with rila (at least the above part)!

Some show on ESPN this morning was commenting on this topic. Their speculation was that, since ballots are not verified (i.e., like the Oscars), that MLB may have fudged the count as a way to avoid the embarrassment of naming Bonds to the team in his hometown and during his attempt to pass Aaron. In other words, a way for Bud the Pud to not have to make a decision that he might find 'awkward'.

Rem

Here's the solution:

07-02-2007, 07:55 PM	#1
GriffeyFan Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Indianapolis, Ind. Posts: 2,784	Does anyone else find it fishy that Bonds made up so many votes in the final days? One report that I heard said he made up approx. 300,00 votes while another said 130,000. Either way, that's a huge bump in a matter of days. I haven't scanned the internet for conspiracy theories but I did hear one radio guy float the idea.

07-02-2007, 07:56 PM	#2
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,612	Re: Does anyone else find it fishy that Bonds made up so many votes in the final days His ballot took steroids. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

07-02-2007, 08:22 PM	#5
westofyou breath Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: PDX Posts: 39,663	Re: Does anyone else find it fishy that Bonds made up so many votes in the final days Any Reds fan who quibbles about votes should check the AS Game and their teams history with fan voting.

07-02-2007, 08:54 PM	#7
red-in-la Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Santa Paula, CA Posts: 6,536	Re: Does anyone else find it fishy that Bonds made up so many votes in the final days So, because people (Reds fans) did it in the past, then it is OK to do it again for Bonds? If I were JR I would tell the manager that if Bonds goes to the outfield without a drug test, I am walking of the field. What I distain about Bonds is what he is doing to Hammerin' Hank. Nobody overcame more than Aaron to beat out the Babe. To have a slimmy self absorbed character like Bonds ruin all of it is sickening. This precisely why I have balked at putting Pete in the HOF. You crown him as Mr. Baseball in doing so and make him a hero figure to kids who cannot see his shortcomings. __________________ "Is there a problem officers?"

07-02-2007, 10:14 PM	#11
remdog Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 7,975	Re: Does anyone else find it fishy that Bonds made up so many votes in the final days So....back to the question: was Bond's election fixed? Rem

07-02-2007, 10:19 PM	#12
jojo Five Tool Fool Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,695	Re: Does anyone else find it fishy that Bonds made up so many votes in the final days I'm still pissed that the Yankees aren't playing the Redsox in the all-star game....and they say this one counts....ya right.... __________________ "This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

07-02-2007, 10:26 PM	#14
redsfan30 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,546	Re: Does anyone else find it fishy that Bonds made up so many votes in the final days Yes, I've wondered this myself. Seems fishy that the tough decision on Bonds making the team or not now doesn't have to be made thanks to a massive vote make-up for a player people hate. Yep, something stinks about that. __________________ "Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill

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