Does anyone else find it fishy that Bonds made up so many votes in the final days?

[letsgojunior]

Originally Posted by redsfan30

Yes, I've wondered this myself.

Seems fishy that the tough decision on Bonds making the team or not now doesn't have to be made thanks to a massive vote make-up for a player people hate.

Yep, something stinks about that.

I agree, especially given that the latest votes were what - like a week ago?

[remdog]

Originally Posted by Big Klu

Here's the solution:

And that's precisely what they were commenting on: they don't have one of those. (Seems to me those kind of accounting firms used to be refered to as 'The Big Seven'. How many are left after all the mergers?)

How do we know the results haven't been tainted?

Rem

[Big Klu]

Originally Posted by remdog

And that's precisely what they were commenting on: they don't have one of those. (Seems to me those kind of accounting firms used to be refered to as 'The Big Seven'. How many are left after all the mergers?)

How do we know the results haven't been tainted?

Rem

Four. They are now refered to as "The Big Four".

PricewaterhouseCoopers
Ernst & Young
Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu
KPMG

[KronoRed]

Originally Posted by remdog

So....back to the question: was Bond's election fixed?

Rem

I think it was, I don't really think it's a big deal either, the allstar game long ago stopped being important in any way, MLB should just name who they want and who belongs, the voting is silly

[Jpup]

so, what if it was? he deserved to be there and who could trust LaRussa to make the right decision.

[remdog]

Originally Posted by Jpup

so, what if it was? he deserved to be there and who could trust LaRussa to make the right decision.

If it was? It would certainly fit with the Bonds image.

As far as his deserving to be there, that's a good subject for a thread of its' own. Feel like starting one?

Rem

[Yachtzee]

Originally Posted by westofyou

Any Reds fan who quibbles about votes should check the AS Game and their teams history with fan voting.

I think it really depends on how those votes were made up. I have no problem with SF fans stuffing the ballot box. The whole point of fan voting is to encourage fan participation and generate fan interest. However, if the number of votes that found their way to Bonds were the result of some sort of jobbing the system by MLB to avoid the sticky situation of Bonds not starting in his own town, I'd have a real problem with that. For now I'll give MLB the benefit of the doubt and say it was fan voting.

[Jpup]

Originally Posted by remdog

If it was? It would certainly fit with the Bonds image.

As far as his deserving to be there, that's a good subject for a thread of its' own. Feel like starting one?

Rem

1.119 OPS

He's an active player. End of discussion IMO.

[Chip R]

I wouldn't doubt that someone from the Giants organization wrote or had someone write some kind of program to vote for Bonds. Heck, someone on here made some program where you could vote 20 times for Reds players a few years ago. The Giants probably just took it a little farther.

[remdog]

Originally Posted by Jpup

1.119

No, the actual number in the discussion is 130,000. Like I said, why not start a seperate thread if you want to discuss the other number? I'm sure that there are any number of people that are willing to talk about that.

Rem

[cumberlandreds]

Originally Posted by KronoRed

I think it was, I don't really think it's a big deal either, the allstar game long ago stopped being important in any way, MLB should just name who they want and who belongs, the voting is silly

I think the same as you. FOX wanted him there so they made sure it would happen. But it doesn't matter. It's just an exhibition game.

[RedFanAlways1966]

Fixed? Of course. MLB oughta have Vince McMahon umping behind the plate for the ASG. Only be fitting after the sudden surge in votes for B*A*R*R*Y.

[redsrule2500]

Obviously the whole thing is a scam. Oh, but it matters!!! HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE FOR A WORLD SERIES whoopie.

You know what used to be cool, just playing the All Star game without the crap.

[Unassisted]

Originally Posted by Chip R

I wouldn't doubt that someone from the Giants organization wrote or had someone write some kind of program to vote for Bonds. Heck, someone on here made some program where you could vote 20 times for Reds players a few years ago. The Giants probably just took it a little farther.

San Francisco is awfully close to Silicon Valley, where there are more people with the technical capability to game an electronic ballot than anywhere else in the US. It could just be a cluster of eager nerds who pushed the Bonds total higher. Or it wouldn't be difficult for the team or Bonds to hire the ballot-stuffing job done, with so much high-powered expertise nearby.

[westofyou]

Originally Posted by Unassisted

San Francisco is awfully close to Silicon Valley, where there are more people with the technical capability to game an electronic ballot than anywhere else in the US. It could just be a cluster of eager nerds who pushed the Bonds total higher. Or it wouldn't be difficult for the team or Bonds to hire the ballot-stuffing job done, with so much high-powered expertise nearby.

That's a reach, I'll counter that they're probably way more interested in making money than making votes.

Hey with all the mess in votes that actually matter in Ohio you'd think that folks would be used to a little discrepancy now and then...