Reds vs Giants -- 7/5/07 - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Matt700wlw · 07-05-2007, 04:04 PM

Hamilton cf
Phillips 2b
Griffey rf
Conine 1b
Dunn lf
Freel 3b
Gonzalez ss
Ross c
Arroyo p

Pete said he went Hamilton leadoff and Freel lower because Hamilton's OBP is better and Freel's average with RISP is better. Just thought that was interesting.

Also, he liked Conine's numbers better vs the right-handed Morris

-Trent

Joseph · 07-05-2007, 04:07 PM

Different indeed.

Let's see how it works.

RedsManRick · 07-05-2007, 04:11 PM

As long as Gonzalez are Ross are 7 & 8, the rest of the lineup is much less relevant. I really like Freel batting down in the order where his speed is more valuable -- and it gets Hamilton more ABs.

Red Leader · 07-05-2007, 04:11 PM

Interesting. If those two facts are indeed true, makes sense to me.

flyer85 · 07-05-2007, 04:12 PM

I though Morris was pitching for the Giants.

Conine is all of 4-13 with a sub 700 OPS against Morris.

Red Leader · 07-05-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by flyer85

I though Morris was pitching for the Giants.

I believe he is. I looked back through this thread and didn't see any mention of someone stating otherwise.

Matt700wlw · 07-05-2007, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyer85

I though Morris was pitching for the Giants.

He is.....he likes Conine's numbers against him better than Hatte's (I just added that to the first post)

Red Leader · 07-05-2007, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyer85

I though Morris was pitching for the Giants.

Conine is all of 4-13 with a sub 700 OPS against Morris.

Hatteberg was 0-7 against Morris last year.

Puffy · 07-05-2007, 04:26 PM

Boy, on what other team that Conine could have signed with would he have 80% of his at bats out of the cleanup spot?

He picked the right team to sign with. His agent should have a big bonus check from him this offseason.

Tony Cloninger · 07-05-2007, 05:10 PM

So it's ok for the new guy to sit EE?? Okay....

Matt700wlw · 07-05-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger

So it's ok for the new guy to sit EE?? Okay....

I'd rather he didn't, but he has his plan to play Freel a lot all over the place.....I guess it's going to happen from time to time.

Red Leader · 07-05-2007, 05:14 PM

Both Freel and Edwin are 1-7 (.143) against Morris. Both have a double.

Matt700wlw · 07-05-2007, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Leader

Both Freel and Edwin are 1-7 (.143) against Morris. Both have a double.

I guess today it doesn't really matter

Mario-Rijo · 07-05-2007, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Leader

Hatteberg was 0-7 against Morris last year.

Yup 0-7 lifetime and 2 BB's.

Conine as was already stated is 4-13 1 DBL and 1 RBI

Mario-Rijo · 07-05-2007, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

I'd rather he didn't, but he has his plan to play Freel a lot all over the place.....I guess it's going to happen from time to time.

Agreed and I guess if you are gonna sit EEE once a week or so then it might as well be vs. someone who hasn't had much success and isn't likely to face anymore this yr.

07-05-2007, 04:04 PM	#1
Matt700wlw Making sense of it all Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26,130	Reds vs Giants -- 7/5/07 Hamilton cf Phillips 2b Griffey rf Conine 1b Dunn lf Freel 3b Gonzalez ss Ross c Arroyo p Pete said he went Hamilton leadoff and Freel lower because Hamilton's OBP is better and Freel's average with RISP is better. Just thought that was interesting. Also, he liked Conine's numbers better vs the right-handed Morris -Trent __________________ An excited shade of Red Last edited by Matt700wlw; 07-05-2007 at 04:14 PM.

07-05-2007, 04:07 PM	#2
Joseph Tired of talk. Win! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,122	Re: Reds vs Giants -- 7/5/07 Different indeed. Let's see how it works. __________________ Championships for MY teams in my lifetime: Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90 Chicago Blackhawks - 10 University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12 Cincinnati Bengals - None Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98

07-05-2007, 04:11 PM	#3
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,919	Re: Reds vs Giants -- 7/5/07 As long as Gonzalez are Ross are 7 & 8, the rest of the lineup is much less relevant. I really like Freel batting down in the order where his speed is more valuable -- and it gets Hamilton more ABs. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

07-05-2007, 04:11 PM	#4
Red Leader Puffy's Daddy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Centerville, OH Posts: 20,422	Re: Reds vs Giants -- 7/5/07 Interesting. If those two facts are indeed true, makes sense to me. __________________ 'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.' -Snoop on his retirement Your Mom is happy.

07-05-2007, 04:12 PM	#5
flyer85 He has the Evil Eye! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south of the border Posts: 23,858	Re: Reds vs Giants -- 7/5/07 I though Morris was pitching for the Giants. Conine is all of 4-13 with a sub 700 OPS against Morris. __________________ What are you, people? On dope? - Mr Hand Last edited by flyer85; 07-05-2007 at 04:16 PM.

07-05-2007, 04:26 PM	#9
Puffy Puffy 3:16 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Panama City Beach Posts: 13,669	Re: Reds vs Giants -- 7/5/07 Boy, on what other team that Conine could have signed with would he have 80% of his at bats out of the cleanup spot? He picked the right team to sign with. His agent should have a big bonus check from him this offseason. __________________ "I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum." - - Rowdy Roddy Piper "It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I am not a big man" - - Fletch

07-05-2007, 05:10 PM	#10
Tony Cloninger Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 5,100	Re: Reds vs Giants -- 7/5/07 So it's ok for the new guy to sit EE?? Okay....

07-05-2007, 05:14 PM	#12
Red Leader Puffy's Daddy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Centerville, OH Posts: 20,422	Re: Reds vs Giants -- 7/5/07 Both Freel and Edwin are 1-7 (.143) against Morris. Both have a double. __________________ 'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.' -Snoop on his retirement Your Mom is happy.

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