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Old 07-26-2007, 01:55 PM   #16
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Re: Odell Thurman denied reinstatement

Maybe Goodell could just start kicking guys out of the league that he doesn't personally care for. Say, he doesn't like their hair cut, they go play in Canada. It looks like that's the direction the NFL is heading.
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:02 PM   #17
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Re: Odell Thurman denied reinstatement

Look at all the stuff Chris Henry did and look at what Thurman did.
Chris Henry is going to miss a total of 10 games (2 last season and 8 this season) and Thurman is going to miss 2 seasons.
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:04 PM   #18
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Look at all the stuff Chris Henry did and look at what Thurman did.
Chris Henry is going to miss a total of 10 games (2 last season and 8 this season) and Thurman is going to miss 2 seasons.
I think after Henry's suspension, he has to re-apply as well....Goodell may jerk that decision around for 6 weeks and then decide against letting him come back...

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Old 07-26-2007, 02:22 PM   #19
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I really hope Thurman files suit against the NFL. Goodell is nothing but a grandstanding fraud.
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:26 PM   #20
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I think after Henry's suspension, he has to re-apply as well....Goodell may jerk that decision around for 6 weeks and then decide against letting him come back...

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No, he doesn't have to re-apply.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:18 PM   #21
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This makes no sense...

Goodell could go from being applauded for his "tough stance" to being derided for blatantly unfair treatment of players very quickly.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:40 PM   #22
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Ok, so let's say Odell has done everything he has been asked to do and there isn't anything else out there that we don't know about. How does he go about filing a grievance? How does that whole thing work, is there any chance at all the decision would change?
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:48 PM   #23
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Re: Odell Thurman denied reinstatement

If Odell has stayed clean, it seems as though the NFL has a Kennesaw Mountain Landis running the show. Iron fist.

Not sure and I am a huge Bengals fan. However, I have a hard time feeling sorrow for Odell. I think my fav team needs him in the middle of the defense. But he (and only he) made the bed he now lies in. I believe in 2nd chances... but when you start asking for 3rd/4th chances, then you have taken it to a different level.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:46 PM   #24
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If Odell has stayed clean, it seems as though the NFL has a Kennesaw Mountain Landis running the show. Iron fist.

Not sure and I am a huge Bengals fan. However, I have a hard time feeling sorrow for Odell. I think my fav team needs him in the middle of the defense. But he (and only he) made the bed he now lies in. I believe in 2nd chances... but when you start asking for 3rd/4th chances, then you have taken it to a different level.
Exactly the way I feel. Didn't he get a DUI while under his last suspension? And people are crying about him not being reinstated, and blaming Goddell?? Please, if you have a gripe, call Odell, don't blame the commish. He's trying to clean up the sport.
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Old 07-26-2007, 10:05 PM   #25
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Odell has served his time, though, that's the point. He spent four months in an alcohol rehab center and cleaned himself up. What else is he supposed to do?
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Odell has served his time, though, that's the point. He spent four months in an alcohol rehab center and cleaned himself up. What else is he supposed to do?
He should have got two DUIs like Jared Allen, then he would of had his suspension reduced.

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Old 07-26-2007, 11:41 PM   #27
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Exactly the way I feel. Didn't he get a DUI while under his last suspension? And people are crying about him not being reinstated, and blaming Goddell?? Please, if you have a gripe, call Odell, don't blame the commish. He's trying to clean up the sport.
He did everything that the NFL told him to do, and still wasn't reinstated, that is the gripe with Goddell. I think everybody understands what Odell did wrong, and a lot of us were very bitter about it, but enough is enough, give him a chance to prove he has turned his live around. I like what one of his teammates said on Bengals.com. He needs to be with the team where they view him as a son, brother, and friend... Compare his offenses to Pacman Jones and Tank Johnson and tell me why he deserves more punishment than they have gotten so far... Its like being told by your parents to do something then after you complete the task you are punished like you never completed the task in the first place. Its hypocritical actions like that we protest.

After all, what better publicity can the NFL get than showing that a program to clean up the NFL and helping players is a success. Instead it makes it look like the NFL doesn't even trust its on policies of rehabilitation.
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:55 AM   #28
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He should have got two DUIs like Jared Allen, then he would of had his suspension reduced.

Or taken steroids
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:03 AM   #29
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He did everything that the NFL told him to do,
I see people making that assumption, but does anybody really know if its true? Granted, we have not heard of any violations, but perhaps he failed/missed a test (or tests) the NFL tried to administer, but they kept it quiet for privacy reasons.

If the NFL told him what he had to do to be reinstated, and he failed to live up to it (which seems just as likely as the more popular belief that he did everything he needed to do), then he probably deserves this.

And I'm not convinced the NFL is obligated to release all details of what he did/did not do. As a fan, I'd like to know whe reinstatement was denied and what, if anything, Thurman failed to do, as that would make this decision easier to accept, but perhaps Odell wanted it kept secret.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:44 AM   #30
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He did everything that the NFL told him to do, and still wasn't reinstated, that is the gripe with Goddell. I think everybody understands what Odell did wrong, and a lot of us were very bitter about it, but enough is enough, give him a chance to prove he has turned his live around. I like what one of his teammates said on Bengals.com. He needs to be with the team where they view him as a son, brother, and friend... Compare his offenses to Pacman Jones and Tank Johnson and tell me why he deserves more punishment than they have gotten so far... Its like being told by your parents to do something then after you complete the task you are punished like you never completed the task in the first place. Its hypocritical actions like that we protest.

After all, what better publicity can the NFL get than showing that a program to clean up the NFL and helping players is a success. Instead it makes it look like the NFL doesn't even trust its on policies of rehabilitation.

Wasn't Odell with his teammates when he commited his past transgressions? Maybe Goodell feels he's doing Odell a favor. I recently read there was a problem this summer with an all night party, guns, and Odell threatening someone? And how do we all know Odell's done everything the commish asked him to do?
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