Jeter - the next hit king?

[Matt700wlw]

http://www.getsportsinfo.com/index.a...onssays/081607

[Heath]

I can't see him playing that long.

[KronoRed]

Me either.

[Cyclone792]

The only way that record is going to be touched is if someone hits higher than .350 for their career and plays forever, like Ty Cobb did. Or if someone hits higher than .300 for their career and plays forever, then tacks on about four more seasons when they had no business in a batter's box, like Pete Rose did.

PETE ROSE

1983-1986

YEAR TEAM         AGE G    AB    R    H    2B  3B  HR   HR%   RBI  BB   SO   SB   CS  AVG   SLG  OBA   OPS
1983 Phillies     42  151   493   52  121  14   3   0   0.00   45   52   28    7   7  .245  .286  .316  .602 
1984 Expos        43   95   278   34   72   6   2   0   0.00   23   31   20    1   1  .259  .295  .334  .629 
     Reds         43   26    96    9   35   9   0   0   0.00   11    9    7    0   0  .365  .458  .430  .888 
     TOTALS           121   374   43  107  15   2   0   0.00   34   40   27    1   1  .286  .337  .359  .696 
1985 Reds         44  119   405   60  107  12   2   2   0.49   46   86   35    8   1  .264  .319  .395  .713 
1986 Reds         45   72   237   15   52   8   2   0   0.00   25   30   31    3   0  .219  .270  .316  .586 
     TOTALS           463  1509  170  387  49   9   2   0.13  150  208  121   19   9  .256  .305  .349  .654 
     LG AVERAGE            1500  188  393  67  11  34   2.24  175  151  229   42  19  .262  .388  .330  .718 
     POS AVERAGE           1521  188  406  73   7  43   2.83  211  178  221   14  12  .267  .409  .343  .752 

YEAR TEAM          RC   RCAA  RCAP OWP   RC/G   TB   EBH  ISO   SEC  BPA  IBB HBP SAC  SF GIDP OUTS  PA   POS
1983 Phillies       45  -22  -31  .322   3.05  141   17  .041  .160  .332   5   2   1   7  11   398   555  1B
1984 Expos          27   -5   -7  .413   3.30   82    8  .036  .151  .334   3   1   3   1  10   221   314  1B
     Reds           19    8    7  .731   8.27   44    9  .094  .188  .505   1   2   0   0   1    62   107  1B
     TOTALS         46    3    0  .520   4.39  126   17  .051  .160  .378   4   3   3   1  11   283   421 
1985 Reds           58    5   -1  .531   4.99  129   16  .054  .286  .433   5   4   1   4  10   314   500  1B
1986 Reds           23  -10  -13  .334   3.30   64   10  .051  .190  .364   0   4   0   1   2   188   272  1B
     TOTALS        172  -24  -45  .433   3.93  460   60  .048  .199  .377  14  13   5  13  34  1183  1748 
     LG AVERAGE    195    0    0  .500   4.44  583  111  .126  .255  .437  19   7  11  13  33  1183  1681 
     POS AVERAGE   214   19    0  .535   4.88  622  123  .142  .268  .448  26   6   4  15  37  1183  1724

[Caveat Emperor]

If Ichiro would've started in America, he might've had a shot -- but even his game is based so much on speed that I don't see him being able to continue to average 200 hits into his late 30s/early 40s.

[bucksfan2]

I just dont see Jeter doing it. Jeter needs 10 years of 200+ hits and that would put him at 43. We all saw what happens to a supremely talent SS when they reach their upper 30's in Larkin. Does he have a chance? Sure but besides staying healthy and productive for the next 10 years you also have to take into consideration that Jeter does not need baseball. He is financially set right now and could retire and live a lavish lifestyle right now. The sole reason he would be playing into his 40's would be to break the record. I just dont see that happening.

[Unassisted]

It would be interesting to see Pete's reaction if his record was broken in his lifetime.

The commissioner would probably love to see Derek Jeter be the one to do it.

[vaticanplum]

He won't do it. But he will play for longer than a lot of people expect.

[KronoRed]

Originally Posted by Unassisted

It would be interesting to see Pete's reaction if his record was broken in his lifetime.

That would be spectacular

[Tornon]

Julio Franco's eventually gotta do it, doesn't he? It's like nobody ever explained to him what retirement was

[Marc D]

It may not be this generation of players(then again it could be) but I think as medicine continues to advance, specifically sports medicine the "normal" career length is going to get longer and longer.

I could see the day when a lot of these "unbreakable" career accumulation records do indeed get broken because 20-30 year careers aren't that uncommon. Franco proves the human body can do it, science can probably get it to the point where its not such a rare occurance.

Thats why anytime I'n in the "what records will never be broken" discussion I never go for the obvious ones like Ripken, Cy Young, Clemens K's or Pete's hit record. I still say Vandermeer's (sp?) back to back no hitters because it doesn't matter how long someone plays they have to throw 3 straight no hitters to break it...good luck.

[Big Klu]

Originally Posted by Marc D

It may not be this generation of players(then again it could be) but I think as medicine continues to advance, specifically sports medicine the "normal" career length is going to get longer and longer.

I could see the day when a lot of these "unbreakable" career accumulation records do indeed get broken because 20-30 year careers aren't that uncommon. Franco proves the human body can do it, science can probably get it to the point where its not such a rare occurance.

Thats why anytime I'n in the "what records will never be broken" discussion I never go for the obvious ones like Ripken, Cy Young, Clemens K's or Pete's hit record. I still say Vandermeer's (sp?) back to back no hitters because it doesn't matter how long someone plays they have to throw 3 straight no hitters to break it...good luck.

I thought Nolan Ryan had the strikeout record. Roger Clemens is only 1061 K's behind Ryan.

[Marc D]

Originally Posted by Big Klu

I thought Nolan Ryan had the strikeout record. Roger Clemens is only 1061 K's behind Ryan.

Oops.

Oh well, he takes his vitamins and he can break that in 5-6 years.

[bucksfan2]

Originally Posted by Marc D

It may not be this generation of players(then again it could be) but I think as medicine continues to advance, specifically sports medicine the "normal" career length is going to get longer and longer.

I could see the day when a lot of these "unbreakable" career accumulation records do indeed get broken because 20-30 year careers aren't that uncommon. Franco proves the human body can do it, science can probably get it to the point where its not such a rare occurance.

Thats why anytime I'n in the "what records will never be broken" discussion I never go for the obvious ones like Ripken, Cy Young, Clemens K's or Pete's hit record. I still say Vandermeer's (sp?) back to back no hitters because it doesn't matter how long someone plays they have to throw 3 straight no hitters to break it...good luck.

I will disagree with some of what you said. Modern medicine/fitness has definatly prolonged the careers of many players however the human body is still and will always be a body. It will continue to age even if you eat right, excercise, stay in shape, etc. The things that tend to put off the effects of aging and the effects of the daily grind are steriods and those are illegal. Baseball is a game that relies so much on leg strength and wrist speed. You can keep your leg strength as you age but it becomes more difficult. However as your wrist speed starts to decline as you age there isn't anything you can do to reverse those effects.

[MartyFan]

Jeter is the kind of player you want to see holding a record like that...who's the other guy?