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AmarilloRed · 08-21-2007, 11:17 PM

I thought I would create this thread since we have such weakness in the back end of our starting rotation. I will list the pitchers, their ERA, and their W-L this year. This list is taken from SI.com.

1.Schilling 7-5 4.25

2. Clemens 5-5 3.92

3.Carlos Silva 9-12 4.17

4. Jeff Weaver 5-10 5.57

5. Bartolo Colon 6-6 6.72

6. Randy Wolf 9-6 4.73

7. Livan Hernandez 9-7 4.86

8. Freddy Garcia 1-5 5.90

9.Jason Jennings 2-8 6.16

10.Rodrigo Lopez 5-4 4.42

11. Kenny Rogers 3-2 5.23

12. Jon Lieber 3-6 4.73

13. Matt Clement DNP

14. Eric Milton N/A

15. Josh Fogg 7-8 5.82

I simply recreated this thread from a similar one on ORG, so let's have a similar discussion on the merits (or lack thereof) of next year's FA starting pitchers

mroby85 · 08-21-2007, 11:21 PM

wow, thats not a very impressive group, schilling and clemens are the best, but they're too old. i don't even know if i would want any of those guys.

nmculbreth · 08-21-2007, 11:40 PM

This list just reinforces the need to build from within and focus on the long term.

BLEEDS · 08-21-2007, 11:43 PM

Yeah, that list really sucks. I used to like Randy Wolf when he was with the Phillies, before his arm almost fell off...

All I can see now is shades of Eric Milton, who for some ungodly reason is actually listed as the 14th best FA SP available

PEACE

-BLEEDS

mroby85 · 08-21-2007, 11:45 PM

is it just me or is jeff weaver on this list every year?
the only ones i would even find tempting just for 1 year deals to contend would be clemens or schilling, and neither one would sign with cincinnati.

Degenerate39 · 08-21-2007, 11:50 PM

So everyone wants to get rid of Dunn to pick up one of these guys? There can't be a guy on that list that will help this team more than Dunn.

AmarilloRed · 08-21-2007, 11:56 PM

It just points out how weak the SP free agent market is. However, I could see us giving one of these pitchers a 1 year deal until Cueto is ready. I suppose we need to consider if we would get better play from a FA or from Belisle.

Degenerate39 · 08-21-2007, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmarilloRed

It just points out how weak the SP free agent market is. However, I could see us giving one of these pitchers a 1 year deal until Cueto is ready. I suppose we need to consider if we would get better play from a FA or from Belisle.

It would probably be Silva because you know how Wayne loves those Twins

mroby85 · 08-21-2007, 11:58 PM

belisle sucks in my opinion, he shows flashes, but he can't seem to consistently put a season together. i'm personally tired of his act, and would rather give someone else a shot. anyone think homer bailey would be a possibility by next season?

Degenerate39 · 08-22-2007, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mroby85

belisle sucks in my opinion, he shows flashes, but he can't seem to consistently put a season together. i'm personally tired of his act, and would rather give someone else a shot. anyone think homer bailey would be a possibility by next season?

I think he has to be really. The Reds won't last another season with a rotation of Harang, Arroyo, Livingston, ?, ?. Hopefully Homer does well in the minors the rest of the year and trains hard in the offseason.

jmac · 08-22-2007, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by degenerate10

It would probably be Silva because you know how Wayne loves those Twins

Actually,from that group Silva might be decent if him and Dunn could bury the hatchet ( if Dunner's back)

Muggerd · 08-22-2007, 04:56 AM

Id be interested in Schilling, Garcia, Lieber and Clement if any can get healthy

TheOnlyRedsFan · 08-22-2007, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocko

Actually,from that group Silva might be decent if him and Dunn could bury the hatchet ( if Dunner's back)

bury the hatchet
what happened between them?

ChatterRed · 08-22-2007, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmarilloRed

I thought I would create this thread since we have such weakness in the back end of our starting rotation. I will list the pitchers, their ERA, and their W-L this year. This list is taken from SI.com.

1.Schilling 7-5 4.25

2. Clemens 5-5 3.92

3.Carlos Silva 9-12 4.17

4. Jeff Weaver 5-10 5.57

5. Bartolo Colon 6-6 6.72

6. Randy Wolf 9-6 4.73

7. Livan Hernandez 9-7 4.86

8. Freddy Garcia 1-5 5.90

9.Jason Jennings 2-8 6.16

10.Rodrigo Lopez 5-4 4.42

11. Kenny Rogers 3-2 5.23

12. Jon Lieber 3-6 4.73

13. Matt Clement DNP

14. Eric Milton N/A

15. Josh Fogg 7-8 5.82

I simply recreated this thread from a similar one on ORG, so let's have a similar discussion on the merits (or lack thereof) of next year's FA starting pitchers

Just say no!

HokieRed · 08-22-2007, 09:50 AM

Silva actually looks like the best of the lot. Should Lohse be on the list?

08-21-2007, 11:17 PM	#1
AmarilloRed Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Amarillo,Texas Posts: 3,997	The top 15 SP free agents I thought I would create this thread since we have such weakness in the back end of our starting rotation. I will list the pitchers, their ERA, and their W-L this year. This list is taken from SI.com. 1.Schilling 7-5 4.25 2. Clemens 5-5 3.92 3.Carlos Silva 9-12 4.17 4. Jeff Weaver 5-10 5.57 5. Bartolo Colon 6-6 6.72 6. Randy Wolf 9-6 4.73 7. Livan Hernandez 9-7 4.86 8. Freddy Garcia 1-5 5.90 9.Jason Jennings 2-8 6.16 10.Rodrigo Lopez 5-4 4.42 11. Kenny Rogers 3-2 5.23 12. Jon Lieber 3-6 4.73 13. Matt Clement DNP 14. Eric Milton N/A 15. Josh Fogg 7-8 5.82 I simply recreated this thread from a similar one on ORG, so let's have a similar discussion on the merits (or lack thereof) of next year's FA starting pitchers

08-21-2007, 11:21 PM	#2
mroby85 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,281	Re: The top 15 SP free agents wow, thats not a very impressive group, schilling and clemens are the best, but they're too old. i don't even know if i would want any of those guys.

08-21-2007, 11:40 PM	#3
nmculbreth Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 532	Re: The top 15 SP free agents This list just reinforces the need to build from within and focus on the long term.

08-21-2007, 11:43 PM	#4
BLEEDS Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 2,128	Re: The top 15 SP free agents Yeah, that list really sucks. I used to like Randy Wolf when he was with the Phillies, before his arm almost fell off... All I can see now is shades of Eric Milton, who for some ungodly reason is actually listed as the 14th best FA SP available PEACE -BLEEDS

08-21-2007, 11:45 PM	#5
mroby85 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,281	Re: The top 15 SP free agents is it just me or is jeff weaver on this list every year? the only ones i would even find tempting just for 1 year deals to contend would be clemens or schilling, and neither one would sign with cincinnati.

08-21-2007, 11:50 PM	#6
Degenerate39 Senor Votto Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 7,847	Re: The top 15 SP free agents So everyone wants to get rid of Dunn to pick up one of these guys? There can't be a guy on that list that will help this team more than Dunn. __________________ Most Vottomatic Player

08-21-2007, 11:56 PM	#7
AmarilloRed Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Amarillo,Texas Posts: 3,997	Re: The top 15 SP free agents It just points out how weak the SP free agent market is. However, I could see us giving one of these pitchers a 1 year deal until Cueto is ready. I suppose we need to consider if we would get better play from a FA or from Belisle.

08-21-2007, 11:58 PM	#9
mroby85 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,281	Re: The top 15 SP free agents belisle sucks in my opinion, he shows flashes, but he can't seem to consistently put a season together. i'm personally tired of his act, and would rather give someone else a shot. anyone think homer bailey would be a possibility by next season?

08-22-2007, 04:56 AM	#12
Muggerd Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,040	Re: The top 15 SP free agents Id be interested in Schilling, Garcia, Lieber and Clement if any can get healthy

08-22-2007, 09:50 AM	#15
HokieRed Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,048	Re: The top 15 SP free agents Silva actually looks like the best of the lot. Should Lohse be on the list?

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