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Old 08-28-2007, 01:48 PM   #1
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8/28/07 - Reds vs Pirates(Game 1) - Game Thread

Reds Starting Lineup from Trent:

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Hopper cf
Keppinger ss
Griffey rf
Phillips 2b
Cantu 1b
Encarnacion 3b
Valentin c
Ellison lf
Ramirez p

Pete said Gonzalez, Ross and Dunn will be playing the second game.
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N. McLouth cf
J. Bautista 3b
F. Sanchez 2b
A. LaRoche 1b
X. Nady rf
J. Bay lf
R. Paulino c
C. Izturis ss
T. Gorzelanny p

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Old 08-28-2007, 01:49 PM   #2
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Re: 8/28/07 - Reds vs Pirates(Game 1) - Game Thread

Hamilton won't play the second game either? I know it's two lefties, but, c'mon...
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Old 08-28-2007, 01:53 PM   #3
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Hamilton won't play the second game either? I know it's two lefties, but, c'mon...
Hopper hardly gets to play anymore, and he is killing lefties. I am sure he will get in as a pinch hitter in one or both.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:10 PM   #4
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Re: 8/28/07 - Reds vs Pirates(Game 1) - Game Thread

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Hopper hardly gets to play anymore......
and this is bad, how?

(I know, I took you out of context......apologies)

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Old 08-28-2007, 02:11 PM   #5
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Re: 8/28/07 - Reds vs Pirates(Game 1) - Game Thread

I can't imagine Ellison will get two starts, I'd bet Hamilton starts game 2.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:12 PM   #6
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I can't imagine Ellison will get two starts, I'd bet Hamilton starts game 2.
Maybe Hopper gets two starts moving to center.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:18 PM   #7
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Re: 8/28/07 - Reds vs Pirates(Game 1) - Game Thread

Griffey sits in the second game, giving us an outfield of Hopper, Ellison and Dunn? I hope that's a joke. Ellison doesn't deserve to start anywhere anytime. Just play Hamilton regardless.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:20 PM   #8
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I can't imagine Ellison will get two starts, I'd bet Hamilton starts game 2.
I'm pretty ruffled by him getting one start :
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:25 PM   #9
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Ellison doesn't deserve to start anywhere anytime. Just play Hamilton regardless.
Especially if the team is "in the race".
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Especially if the team is "in the race".
Of course, that's debatable. In our minds they are, but I doubt the reality is they are. Whatever that means.

I jsut hate to see guys like Ellison started over Josh Hamilton. He does so much more than hit in a game. It seems there is always one outfielder on the Reds that is clearly a 4th or 5th outfielder that ends up starting that shouldn't.
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Of course, that's debatable. In our minds they are, but I doubt the reality is they are. Whatever that means.

I jsut hate to see guys like Ellison started over Josh Hamilton. He does so much more than hit in a game. It seems there is always one outfielder on the Reds that is clearly a 4th or 5th outfielder that ends up starting that shouldn't.
Race or not...Josh Hamilton is part of the future....I'm not sure what Jason Ellison is part of...


Oh, and Hamilton is a better baseball player.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:44 PM   #12
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Re: 8/28/07 - Reds vs Pirates(Game 1) - Game Thread

I will be shocked if Ellison plays the second game and Hamilton sits. My prediction for game 2:

Dunn in left, Hamilton in center, and Hopper in right.
Infield: EE at 3rd, Gonzo at short, Phillips at 2nd, and Hatte at 1st, and Ross catching.


I think lefties may have more throuble with Gorzelanny than Maholm. Lefties are only batting .179 off Gorzelanny, and righties hit him at a .270 clip.

Against Maholm, the game 2 starter, lefties hit .230, and righties hit .284.

Therefore, the amazingly logical lineup that Pete is running out there stacks almost all righties against Gorzelanny in game 1, while using more lefties in game 2 against Maholm. It looks like Pete might have taken a little look at the stats! I like that....
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Re: 8/28/07 - Reds vs Pirates(Game 1) - Game Thread

I really don't get the fascination with Ellison, it is absurd. Playing him over Dunn or Hamilton is like you are trying to lose.
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Re: 8/28/07 - Reds vs Pirates(Game 1) - Game Thread

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I'm not sure what Jason Ellison is part of...
I have a pretty good guess.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:11 PM   #15
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I really don't get the fascination with Ellison, it is absurd. Playing him over Dunn or Hamilton is like you are trying to lose.
They're about to play 10 games in 9 days. And it's still pretty hot out there. Playing your "studs" in all 10 of those games would be akin to the discussion going on in this thread: http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61945

Now... the argument about him being on the roster in the first place... maybe.
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