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redsfan4445 · 10-10-2007, 10:11 PM

its reported that Randy Wolf will not have his option picked up by the dodgers..

"The Dodgers will pass on options for Ramon Martinez and Randy Wolf, but might consider Mike Lieberthal at $1.5MM. Liebs could earn almost $40K per game next year, not too shabby."

think the Reds should take a look??

Team Clark · 10-10-2007, 10:14 PM

A healthy Wolf possibly but I'm not sure I would give him a guaranteed deal.

Of course, someone will give him a 3 year deal for 6 Million a year just because he is left handed.

redsmetz · 10-10-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Clark

A healthy Wolf possibly but I'm not sure I would give him a guaranteed deal.

Of course, someone will give him a 3 year deal for 6 Million a year just because he is left handed.

I'm lefthanded. Where do I sign?

Tom Servo · 10-10-2007, 10:16 PM

I'd definatly be interested, but Wolf probably will stay out west.

RedEye · 10-10-2007, 10:17 PM

If he's healthy, I think Wolf is exactly the type of pitcher the Reds should target.

Highlifeman21 · 10-10-2007, 10:43 PM

Randy Wolf isn't the answer to make the postseason in 2008.

Or 2009.

Or 2010.

Dan · 10-10-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RedEye

If he's healthy, I think Wolf is exactly the type of pitcher the Reds should target.

We've targeted pitchers like this for years trying to catch another Pete Schourek. Other than Jimmy Haynes costing FCB his firstborn, they haven't really worked out. Maybe we ought NOT target the type of pitcher that is Randy Wolfe.

RedEye · 10-10-2007, 11:18 PM

Wait a minute... how is Randy Wolf like Pete Schourek or Jimmy Haynes? I seem to recall Wolf having much more of a track record for success, but maybe I'm missing something there.

We have two solid RHP at the top of our rotation for the next several years. We need a third pitcher, ideally a LHP, to slot in there regardless of whether Bailey and Cueto (both RHP as well) develop to expectations. I don't see any LHP in the pipeline who look like they could slot in at that #3 level that we need.

Last I checked, Randy Wolf was a guy who put up a consistent 4 to 4.5 ERA, missed a fair amount of bats, and threw with his left hand. He may not be healthy right now, but if he checks out with doctors and we can get him for a fair contract, what's not to like?

RedEye · 10-10-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Highlifeman21

Randy Wolf isn't the answer to make the postseason in 2008.

Or 2009.

Or 2010.

Maybe we should sign him in 2011 then?

Highlifeman21 · 10-11-2007, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RedEye

Maybe we should sign him in 2011 then?

Sure.

I have a feeling we'll still be pitching at least 2 guys in the rotation that are back of the rotation fodder. Why not add Randy Wolf to the mix?

Dan · 10-11-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RedEye

Wait a minute... how is Randy Wolf like Pete Schourek or Jimmy Haynes? I seem to recall Wolf having much more of a track record for success, but maybe I'm missing something there.

He's coming off 3 straight years of injury. His latest injury resulted in shoulder surgery. That's a death knell for a pitcher and is not a gamble the Reds ought to be taking with their (somewhat) limited resources. I'm not saying we shouldn't try to sign him to like a 1-year $500,000 contract, but my guess is he'll go for a lot more than that, being left handed and having a bit of a track record of success, as you say.

flyer85 · 10-11-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan

He's coming off 3 straight years of injury. His latest injury resulted in shoulder surgery.

that pretty well covers it. Reds should stay away from pitchers whose likely attrition rate is going to be high.

RedLegSuperStar · 10-11-2007, 09:49 AM

If he's out there and healthy I would probably take a chance on him. Thing that really really worries me is staying healthy.. since 2003 he hasn't put up 200 innings.

Innings Pitched:
2004: 136.2
2005: 80
2006: 56.2
2007: 102.2

In the last four years Wolf is:

24W - 18L / 66 Games / 4.62 ERA / 288 K's

Average per season:

6W - 5L* / 17 Games* / 4.62 ERA / 72 K's

*.5 on Loses and Games rounded up

I could see an incentive based contract with games and innings pitched being huge incentives.

RedsManRick · 10-11-2007, 10:14 AM

If we're going to give a guy coming back from surgery an incentive-laded deal, I'd rather go after Mark Prior. Handedness for starting pitchers is overrated.

flyer85 · 10-11-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar

If he's out there and healthy I would probably take a chance on him. Thing that really really worries me is staying healthy.. since 2003 he hasn't put up 200 innings.

with his track record the odds on him staying healthy in 2008 are not good.

10-10-2007, 10:11 PM	#1
redsfan4445 Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,732	per mlbtraderumors.com...Randy Wolf will not have his option picked up its reported that Randy Wolf will not have his option picked up by the dodgers.. "The Dodgers will pass on options for Ramon Martinez and Randy Wolf, but might consider Mike Lieberthal at $1.5MM. Liebs could earn almost $40K per game next year, not too shabby." think the Reds should take a look??

10-10-2007, 10:16 PM	#4
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,409	Re: per mlbtraderumors.com...Randy Wolf will not have his option picked up I'd definatly be interested, but Wolf probably will stay out west. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

10-10-2007, 10:17 PM	#5
RedEye Ojo Rojo Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Moving to Atlanta in July Posts: 4,429	Re: per mlbtraderumors.com...Randy Wolf will not have his option picked up If he's healthy, I think Wolf is exactly the type of pitcher the Reds should target. __________________ "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear." - Norm (George Wendt), Cheers

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Highlifeman21 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol, just around the corner from ESPN Posts: 8,694	Re: per mlbtraderumors.com...Randy Wolf will not have his option picked up Randy Wolf isn't the answer to make the postseason in 2008. Or 2009. Or 2010.

10-10-2007, 11:18 PM	#8
RedEye Ojo Rojo Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Moving to Atlanta in July Posts: 4,429	Re: per mlbtraderumors.com...Randy Wolf will not have his option picked up Wait a minute... how is Randy Wolf like Pete Schourek or Jimmy Haynes? I seem to recall Wolf having much more of a track record for success, but maybe I'm missing something there. We have two solid RHP at the top of our rotation for the next several years. We need a third pitcher, ideally a LHP, to slot in there regardless of whether Bailey and Cueto (both RHP as well) develop to expectations. I don't see any LHP in the pipeline who look like they could slot in at that #3 level that we need. Last I checked, Randy Wolf was a guy who put up a consistent 4 to 4.5 ERA, missed a fair amount of bats, and threw with his left hand. He may not be healthy right now, but if he checks out with doctors and we can get him for a fair contract, what's not to like? __________________ "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear." - Norm (George Wendt), Cheers

10-11-2007, 09:49 AM	#13
RedLegSuperStar Greatness In The Making Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,078	Re: per mlbtraderumors.com...Randy Wolf will not have his option picked up If he's out there and healthy I would probably take a chance on him. Thing that really really worries me is staying healthy.. since 2003 he hasn't put up 200 innings. Innings Pitched: 2004: 136.2 2005: 80 2006: 56.2 2007: 102.2 In the last four years Wolf is: 24W - 18L / 66 Games / 4.62 ERA / 288 K's Average per season: 6W - 5L* / 17 Games* / 4.62 ERA / 72 K's .5 on Loses and Games rounded up I could see an incentive based contract with games and innings pitched being huge incentives. __________________ "I could watch video of Griffey swinging all day. It's like baseball porn."* - C. Trent Rosecrans 2008 Reds Record When I Attend: 9W - 5L 2009 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 2L 2010 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 0L 2011 Reds Record When I Attend: 0W - 1L

10-11-2007, 10:14 AM	#14
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,919	Re: per mlbtraderumors.com...Randy Wolf will not have his option picked up If we're going to give a guy coming back from surgery an incentive-laded deal, I'd rather go after Mark Prior. Handedness for starting pitchers is overrated. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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