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KronoRed · 10-13-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Ray

So is Dusty really worse than what was available, i.e. Brenly, Girardi etc?

Brenly actually has a ring, so I'd prefer him if the logic is "past success"

Team Clark · 10-13-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by flyer85

the fact that Jocketty has been offered a job to be WKs boss I can't imagine that this wasn't more Castellini then Krivsky. If BC trusted WK he wouldn't be looking to bring in Jocketty.

EXACTAMUNDO!! I wonder if that idea started to creep into Castellini's mind after his meeting with Almaraz? "I support you Wayne"... (But do I trust you?)

smith288 · 10-13-2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CTA513

Maybe Joel is available?

Dude... sapes only!

Always Red · 10-13-2007, 11:40 PM

What a disappointment.

And I thought the offseason was a time of hope and promise for the year to come?

This is a really hard team to root for.

Mostly I'm just disappointed with Castellini; I think when he said "we want to win now" that was all he had, nothing more than wanting to win.

So now what? Get behind Baker? Don't be so sure Bellhorn is gone, it's not too late to resign him. Bruce, Cueto and Bailey will all be in AAA next year, all year long. Get used to Gonzalez hitting leadoff or 2nd next year.

I'm a big Bearcat fan, and I didn't think it could get any worse tonight, until I heard this news on the way home.

This organization is literally going backwards, IMHO.

Stormy · 10-13-2007, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg

What a total inferiority complex this organization has. To sign a name.

I didn't think this franchise could get much lower. It's still sinking.

That pretty much nails it. With the influx of youthful talent starting to produce, they were arguably just a #2-3 Starter, and a couple of bullpen arms away from contention in the NL Central. Then, just keep the focus on perpetuating the farm system and you might be on the road to building an annual contender in a few years, especially given the way that the young pups produced under Petey Mac.

So, our first offseason move is to hire a big name manager for big bucks, and one who just recently lost more games in a season than any Reds manager not named Bob Boone, who runs arms into the ground, favors underproductive vets to more talented youngsters, has a completely anti-statistical bent, and a totally bass ackwards approach to the values of an OBP driven offense, to player roles and matchups, and to player development.

Well played, you rubes.

Tom Servo · 10-13-2007, 11:41 PM

I even just realized another horrible aspect of this is the mocking and laughter by Cubs fans.

Sea Ray · 10-13-2007, 11:42 PM

Clearly things didn't work out for Dusty in Chicago but that's true for a lot of managers. Dusty had a pretty good rep as a manager before the fiasco in Chicago.

Having said that I still think the Reds could have done better. I'd rather have a young, energetic no name like the Tribe got with Eric Wedge given the names bandied about.

Aronchis · 10-13-2007, 11:42 PM

1.Cast is scaring me
2.If Bailey puts it together next year, Dusty will run him hard. It isn't the way it should be, but will be. Homer's shelf life is going to be small. Maybe that groin will act up again.

Puffy · 10-13-2007, 11:42 PM

Well, all those who wanted Junior traded can now kiss that goodbye.

I wasn't one of those people, but I at least saw the logic. Forget it now though.

LoganBuck · 10-13-2007, 11:42 PM

Nuts

BuckeyeRedleg · 10-13-2007, 11:43 PM

Honestly, I hate Tony LaRussa. And I'm not a big fan of Krivsky.

But, I was hoping that we could go into 2008 with Mack and I was ok to give Krivsky another year to work everything out. I was thinking that maybe there is a method to his madness and maybe he's a year away. I didn't want LaRussa and I didn't want Jocketty, especially if it meant bringing in LaRussa and messing up whatever plan Krivsky was working on.

Now, I wish we had LaRussa.

That's how much I think of Dusty Baker.

letsgojunior · 10-13-2007, 11:44 PM

I think Jennifer Love Hewitt (as suggested by Redsbaron) would have been a better option.

Team Clark · 10-13-2007, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Servo

I even just realized another horrible aspect of this is the mocking and laughter by Cubs fans.

I can hear the laughter now when there is 10,000 of them in the stands! Never fails that there are as many cub fans as Reds fans at GABP.

Seriously, I am not against the move. There are worse Managers out there (Tracy, Girardi, Perlozzo) but there were better ones too. I didn't see Dusty's name popping up for other vacancies so why the rush?

flyer85 · 10-13-2007, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

Well, all those who wanted Junior traded can now kiss that goodbye.

I wasn't one of those people, but I at least saw the logic. Forget it now though.

I find it hard to forecast anything because I have no idea who is in charge. I am guessing it isn't Krivsky. Jocketty may shortly be calling the shots and WK will just be carrying out his marching orders.

KronoRed · 10-13-2007, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puffy

Well, all those who wanted Junior traded can now kiss that goodbye.

I wasn't one of those people, but I at least saw the logic. Forget it now though.

That option might get picked up now.

10-13-2007, 11:40 PM	#334
Always Red nothing more than a fan Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,097	Re: Managerial search over. It's Dusty. What a disappointment. And I thought the offseason was a time of hope and promise for the year to come? This is a really hard team to root for. Mostly I'm just disappointed with Castellini; I think when he said "we want to win now" that was all he had, nothing more than wanting to win. So now what? Get behind Baker? Don't be so sure Bellhorn is gone, it's not too late to resign him. Bruce, Cueto and Bailey will all be in AAA next year, all year long. Get used to Gonzalez hitting leadoff or 2nd next year. I'm a big Bearcat fan, and I didn't think it could get any worse tonight, until I heard this news on the way home. This organization is literally going backwards, IMHO.

10-13-2007, 11:41 PM	#336
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,608	Re: Managerial search over. It's Dusty. I even just realized another horrible aspect of this is the mocking and laughter by Cubs fans. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

10-13-2007, 11:42 PM	#337
Sea Ray Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 15,281	Re: Managerial search over. It's Dusty. Clearly things didn't work out for Dusty in Chicago but that's true for a lot of managers. Dusty had a pretty good rep as a manager before the fiasco in Chicago. Having said that I still think the Reds could have done better. I'd rather have a young, energetic no name like the Tribe got with Eric Wedge given the names bandied about.

10-13-2007, 11:42 PM	#338
Aronchis Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,673	Re: Managerial search over. It's Dusty. 1.Cast is scaring me 2.If Bailey puts it together next year, Dusty will run him hard. It isn't the way it should be, but will be. Homer's shelf life is going to be small. Maybe that groin will act up again.

10-13-2007, 11:42 PM	#339
Puffy Puffy 3:16 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Panama City Beach Posts: 13,703	Re: Managerial search over. It's Dusty. Well, all those who wanted Junior traded can now kiss that goodbye. I wasn't one of those people, but I at least saw the logic. Forget it now though. __________________ "I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum." - - Rowdy Roddy Piper "It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I am not a big man" - - Fletch

10-13-2007, 11:42 PM	#340
LoganBuck I hate the Cubs Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,627	Re: Managerial search over. It's Dusty. Nuts __________________ Whenever you get mad over a called strike or ball on a close pitch, it's the equivalent of being mad at the QB pump-faking one time before throwing a pass in your average NFL game. ---Caveat Emperor

10-13-2007, 11:43 PM	#341
BuckeyeRedleg Will post for food Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dublin, OH Posts: 5,127	Re: Managerial search over. It's Dusty. Honestly, I hate Tony LaRussa. And I'm not a big fan of Krivsky. But, I was hoping that we could go into 2008 with Mack and I was ok to give Krivsky another year to work everything out. I was thinking that maybe there is a method to his madness and maybe he's a year away. I didn't want LaRussa and I didn't want Jocketty, especially if it meant bringing in LaRussa and messing up whatever plan Krivsky was working on. Now, I wish we had LaRussa. That's how much I think of Dusty Baker.

10-13-2007, 11:44 PM	#342
letsgojunior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 4,949	Re: Managerial search over. It's Dusty. I think Jennifer Love Hewitt (as suggested by Redsbaron) would have been a better option.

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