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Old 10-21-2007, 10:40 PM   #16
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I agree. The Indians showed before that they are capable of scoring on Daisuke.
Unfortunately, the window for getting to him is shutting rapidly. Papelbon looms as early as the 8th (don't think they would bring him in earlier) and obviously the other bullpen arms + Beckett are available. They just need to get lucky and get a big hit to tie it up.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:44 PM   #17
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Cleveland does not rock. All the more irritating when it is not true.

I'll come clean. I would much rather see the corporate goliath go to the world series than our obnoxious neighbors to the north. The thought of the Indians winning a world championship before our next one leaves a horrible, acidic taste in my mouth.

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Old 10-21-2007, 10:51 PM   #18
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Horrible call on Lofton at second base to lead off the 5th. I continue to be amazed at how many similar calls like this are missed by the suppsed best in the business umpires in the big leagues.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:53 PM   #19
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What is going on with 3B coach? Why in the world would he hold Lofton up there? Makes no sense at all. That could be costly.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:54 PM   #20
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It does cost them. That might be the best chance they had with Papelbon coming on.

Completely insane not to send Lofton home there. If the Indians lose, that 3B coach better find a new place to live. They're not going to take too kindly to such a gaffe.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:56 PM   #21
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It does cost them. That might be the best chance they had with Papelbon coming on.

Completely insane not to send Lofton home there. If the Indians lose, that 3B coach better find a new place to live. They're not going to take too kindly to such a gaffe.

Agreed. Lofton should have scored easily.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:56 PM   #22
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Wow, the Indians lose this one, and the 3rd base coach will have a huge "goat" sign tagged on him forever.
It looked like even Lofton couldn't believe it.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:56 PM   #23
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Wow. Skinner's status just dropped.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:59 PM   #24
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Agreed. Lofton should have scored easily.
Keep in mind that Lofton got thrown out at second earlier in this game. That may have entered into Skinner's thinking.
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:02 PM   #25
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Pedroia is now a folk hero in Boston and all of New England. WOW!
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:03 PM   #26
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:07 PM   #27
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I love the guy, he's been one of my favorite players since I was a kid, but if you want to win the World Series, don't sign Kenny Lofton.
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:10 PM   #28
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Pedroia is now a folk hero in Boston and all of New England. WOW!
Any Red Sox fan who didn't adore Pedroia by July has to have rocks in his head instead of brains.
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Old 10-21-2007, 11:10 PM   #29
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I love the guy, he's been one of my favorite players since I was a kid, but if you want to win the World Series, don't sign Kenny Lofton.
I don't believe Lofton has been the problem, but I see your point.
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I love the guy, he's been one of my favorite players since I was a kid, but if you want to win the World Series, don't sign Kenny Lofton.
?Que? The replay showed that Lofton was safe on the throw to 2nd and he stopped at third because the coach stopped him. For that, he's poison to your attempt to win?

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