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Benihana · 11-28-2007, 11:11 AM

Every sports writer in the country seems to believe Garza will be traded for a young bat. Now the Twins beat writer is pimping a Garza for Carlos Quentin deal.

www.twincities.com/walters

If Carlos Quentin is all they are seeking, surely we can offer a LOT more. Maybe something like Votto and Francisco? The Twins also supposedly like Hatteberg. GET IT DONE, WAYNE!

TOBTTReds · 11-28-2007, 11:42 AM

This seems like a deal that can be made. Hamilton for Garza? Seems like that would easily do it if Quentin is what they wanted.

Benihana · 11-28-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AvesIce51

This seems like a deal that can be made. Hamilton for Garza? Seems like that would easily do it if Quentin is what they wanted.

Seriously. I would start with an offer of Votto and Francisco if all they were seeking was Quentin.

flyer85 · 11-28-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AvesIce51

This seems like a deal that can be made. Hamilton for Garza? Seems like that would easily do it if Quentin is what they wanted.

Makes sense to me. Quentin is not a CF, which is what the Twins need ... and Quentin is coming off a poor season due to an injured shoulder.

I'd go Hamilton, Hatty and a minor league arm.

TOBTTReds · 11-28-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Benihana

Seriously. I would start with an offer of Votto and Francisco if all they were seeking was Quentin.

I would rather try to trade a surplus area for us. After Hatte, who would play first unless we move Dunn there, then I would have NO problem with this.

Johnny Footstool · 11-28-2007, 11:57 AM

The Twins are also negotiating with the Red Sox for Coco Crisp. Garza is allegedly on the block in that deal.

RedsManRick · 11-28-2007, 12:01 PM

If the Sox get Garza, I have to believe they'd be shipping him elsewhere. Imagine Crisp + Prospect for Garza and then Garza, Lester, Prospect (Lowrie?) for Haren.

TRF · 11-28-2007, 12:03 PM

I can see the Reds offering Votto for Garza or Votto and Stubbs. I see Jr. leaving after 2008 to either retirement or FA. without Jr. I see Dunn finally making the switch to 1B. that gives the Reds an OF of Hamilton, Bruce and somebody. I'd hate to lose Votto, but the if the Reds are really going for it in '08, they need another SP.

Johnny Footstool · 11-28-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsManRick

If the Sox get Garza, I have to believe they'd be shipping him elsewhere. Imagine Crisp + Prospect for Garza and then Garza, Lester, Prospect (Lowrie?) for Haren.

That sounds very realistic. The Twins would ask for cash, too, which the Red Sox would happily include.

flyer85 · 11-28-2007, 12:06 PM

I would think the Twins would be a lot more interested in OFs than 1Bs.

blumj · 11-28-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by flyer85

I would think the Twins would be a lot more interested in OFs than 1Bs.

Some, but, remember this is a team that wasted DH at bats on Jason Tyner, so it's not like they'd have to be all that picky about position to wind up with an offensive upgrade somewhere.

Falls City Beer · 11-28-2007, 12:29 PM

Too bad the Reds have no CFs. I imagine that fact alone removes them from consideration for a deal like this.

TRF · 11-28-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Too bad the Reds have no CFs. I imagine that fact alone removes them from consideration for a deal like this.

No, they have no CF's equal to the perceived skill of Torii Hunter. Both Votto and Hamilton trump his bat many times over.

I guess it depends on the pitch and the pitchman.

M2 · 11-28-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Too bad the Reds have no CFs. I imagine that fact alone removes them from consideration for a deal like this.

You could sell Hamilton as a CF based on the supernatural athlete tag. Plus, it doesn't sound like it has to be a CF, if the Twins are seriously considering Carlos Quentin, then Hamilton's got more than enough glove to fill the bill.

Votto's the guy who probably doesn't fit because of Justin Morneau. The Twins have no need for a 1B.

blumj · 11-28-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Too bad the Reds have no CFs. I imagine that fact alone removes them from consideration for a deal like this.

It's going to depend on what they get for Santana, isn't it? If they get a CFer + pitchers for him, they'll look to fill other positions for Garza or a pitcher they get in that deal. But, if they're even looking at Crisp, it's probably safe to assume they want some serious defense in CF, because they're not looking at him for his bat.

11-28-2007, 11:11 AM	#1
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,432	Matt Garza Every sports writer in the country seems to believe Garza will be traded for a young bat. Now the Twins beat writer is pimping a Garza for Carlos Quentin deal. www.twincities.com/walters If Carlos Quentin is all they are seeking, surely we can offer a LOT more. Maybe something like Votto and Francisco? The Twins also supposedly like Hatteberg. GET IT DONE, WAYNE! __________________ Go BLUE!!!

11-28-2007, 11:42 AM	#2
TOBTTReds Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3,673	Re: Matt Garza This seems like a deal that can be made. Hamilton for Garza? Seems like that would easily do it if Quentin is what they wanted.

11-28-2007, 11:57 AM	#6
Johnny Footstool Churlish Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 13,669	Re: Matt Garza The Twins are also negotiating with the Red Sox for Coco Crisp. Garza is allegedly on the block in that deal. __________________ "I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful

11-28-2007, 12:01 PM	#7
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,921	Re: Matt Garza If the Sox get Garza, I have to believe they'd be shipping him elsewhere. Imagine Crisp + Prospect for Garza and then Garza, Lester, Prospect (Lowrie?) for Haren. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

11-28-2007, 12:03 PM	#8
TRF Vavasor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 12,680	Re: Matt Garza I can see the Reds offering Votto for Garza or Votto and Stubbs. I see Jr. leaving after 2008 to either retirement or FA. without Jr. I see Dunn finally making the switch to 1B. that gives the Reds an OF of Hamilton, Bruce and somebody. I'd hate to lose Votto, but the if the Reds are really going for it in '08, they need another SP. __________________ "don't end up with a grandson with a dog collar."

11-28-2007, 12:06 PM	#10
flyer85 He has the Evil Eye! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south of the border Posts: 23,858	Re: Matt Garza I would think the Twins would be a lot more interested in OFs than 1Bs. __________________ What are you, people? On dope? - Mr Hand

11-28-2007, 12:29 PM	#12
Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	Re: Matt Garza Too bad the Reds have no CFs. I imagine that fact alone removes them from consideration for a deal like this.

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