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View Poll Results: Who is the Reds #23 Prospect?
Scott Carroll 3 3.57%
Tzu-Kai Chui 1 1.19%
Chris Dickerson 11 13.10%
Richie Gardner 5 5.95%
Chris Heisey 1 1.19%
Sean Henry 0 0%
Danny Herrera 3 3.57%
Evan Hildenbrandt 2 2.38%
Paul Janish 1 1.19%
Sam Lecure 21 25.00%
Derrik Lutz 5 5.95%
Marcus McBeth 18 21.43%
Juan Rafael 0 0%
Ramon Ramirez 1 1.19%
Justin Reed 4 4.76%
Craig Tatum 1 1.19%
Justin Turner 6 7.14%
Other (please specify) 1 1.19%
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Old 01-02-2008, 06:56 PM   #16
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Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #23

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You never voted for Gardner

I have now..... I like to wait till the suburban precincts report.
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Old 01-02-2008, 08:00 PM   #17
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Small sample size for McBeth. He had a decent hit rate, solid walk and strikeout rates and kept the ball in the yard. He shows a 5.95 ERA, but his numbers are much better than that would suggest.
May have avoided homers, but McBeth was an extreme fly ball pitcher in limited major league action, 33 fly outs to only 10 ground outs. Don't know if that pattern was shown in the minor leagues over the years.

PS -- did show fly ball tendencies in minors in 2006 and 2007 based on go/fo ratio.

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Old 01-02-2008, 11:55 PM   #18
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Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #23

All these C-Grade guys are interchangeable mostly at this point. Depends on what you like. I think McBeth has a nice shot at a decent middle relief guy.
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Old 01-03-2008, 01:21 AM   #19
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Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #23

Sam LeCure gets my vote again.

In fact I believe LeCure deserves to be in the top 12.


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Old 01-03-2008, 01:31 AM   #20
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Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #23

could somebody explain to me how you can vote for Herrera over McBeth?
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Old 01-03-2008, 02:02 AM   #21
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could somebody explain to me how you can vote for Herrera over McBeth?
Shiny new toy syndrome?
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:48 AM   #22
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could somebody explain to me how you can vote for Herrera over McBeth?
Click the little circle next to his name, and then scroll down and hit "submit", or whatever it says to lock in your vote.

Kind of an easy procedure, if you ask me.
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Old 01-03-2008, 02:06 PM   #23
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Click the little circle next to his name, and then scroll down and hit "submit", or whatever it says to lock in your vote.

Kind of an easy procedure, if you ask me.
Oops, I accidently clicked Gardner's "little circle"
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Old 01-03-2008, 04:26 PM   #24
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could somebody explain to me how you can vote for Herrera over McBeth?
Cuz hes a lefty with a screwball. Duh!

Lefty+Screwball+5'6=Coolest Pitcher EVER
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:24 PM   #25
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What!? No Bartles yet?
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:32 PM   #26
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Re: Redszone Community Prospect Vote #23

Lecure action. He appears to have decent enough ability to eat some innings on the back end of the rotation. McBeth is the safest bet left, but he looks more like a middle relief type...not the 8th inning guy I was hoping for.
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:33 PM   #27
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What!? No Bartles yet?
My bad. He is going into the rotation for the next poll.
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:53 PM   #28
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Lecure action. He appears to have decent enough ability to eat some innings on the back end of the rotation. McBeth is the safest bet left, but he looks more like a middle relief type...not the 8th inning guy I was hoping for.

Here is BA's scouting report at the time of trade. If his slider continues to develop he could easily still be that 8th inning guy.

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McBeth, 26, originally signed as an outfielder in 2001, drafted in the fourth round out of South Carolina. A former kick returner for the Gamecocks' football program, McBeth always stood out most for his arm strength. When he hit the wall offensively in high Class A in 2004, the A's moved him to the mound the following season. His primary weapon is a mid-90s fastball, and he also has a mid-80s slider that grades as a plus pitch at times. He's still working on his command and a changeup to keep lefthanders in check, but he's close to big league-ready. McBeth has a 1-0, 1.80 record and five saves in eight appearances at Triple-A Sacramento. In 10 innings, he has a 6-3 K-BB ratio, .200 opponent average and two homers allowed. He ranked fifth in the minors with 32 saves in 2006.
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Old 01-04-2008, 12:21 AM   #29
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His primary weapon is a mid-90s fastball, and he also has a mid-80s slider that grades as a plus pitch at times. He's still working on his command and a changeup to keep lefthanders in check
Did you ever see McBeth in the mid 90's last year? 90-92 with his changeup is enough to succeed, but I don't know what happened to the fastball everyone was talking about.
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Did you ever see McBeth in the mid 90's last year? 90-92 with his changeup is enough to succeed, but I don't know what happened to the fastball everyone was talking about.
His player chart shows him with a wide range of speeds for his fastball between about 87-96 MPH
http://baseball.bornbybits.com/plots/Marcus_McBeth.html
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