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Baker Suspended 2 Games
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Chicago
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Northern Kentucky
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
I just saw this at Reds.com.
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: New York, NY
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
Watch RZ fall in love with his 2 game replacement and the way they handle the game!
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Cincinnati
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
I didn't realize he came in contact with the umpire. I missed that.
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
Me too.... wonder where that happened at because I really didn't see him get too close.
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Join Date: Apr 2000
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
Well, at least Baker is trying to change the clubhouse mentality. Regardless of whether one thinks that's important or not, the guy legitimately cares.
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On the brink of disaster
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
I think it's crazy when you can suspend a manager for allegedly coming into contact with an umpire, but umpires are not suspended or otherwise publicly punished for baiting players. I know you're talking about visual evidence rather than just he said she said, but Edwin has a track record of being quiet and had never been thrown out of a game, while the umpire shows a real propensity to throw people out. Honestly if you are at home and a third baseman who isn't great at speaking english says something, how do you know what he said? It was pretty low class. If he wanted to throw Edwin out, he should have done it with the bat situation.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
Now what are we going to do about the other 112?
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Columbus, OH
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
Is it sad I'm excited to see if we can have some decent lineup construction???
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
Dusty will still write out the lineup card.
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All dyslexics must untie!
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: SW Portland, OR
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
The next time Johnny B calls home, his dad will tell him "you looked like a _____ fool out there!"
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
Edwin Encarnacion is sick. That's why he's not in the lineup. Ed Cooper is umpiring third, so that might have been awkward.
Dusty Baker is livid in his own quiet way about the two-game suspension. He said he was also fined $1,500. On the alleged bump: "I didn't see and I didn't feel it. (Cooper) told me last night that I sprayed him with dip and that I grazed him. I was trying everything I could not to make contact." Baker found out about it at lunch: "Bob Watson called Walt (Jocketty) first. Then Walt called me. Then Bob called me. . . I told Bob: 'What kind of judicial system do we have when we can't appeal?' He said coaches and managers don't get an appeal." It was pointed out that players have appeal because of the union: "Everyone who goes to court gets to appeal. They don't have no union. That's the part of I don't understand." Baker asked Watson: "Did you see me bump him? He said it looked like you inadvertently grazed him with your left shoulder." Christian Roberts, the FSN producer, looked at replays from three different angles. He said Baker's jersey makes light contact with Cooper's shirt. Baker did not watch the replay. His son, Darren, did. Did dad bump him? "No," Darren said. Baker said the whole incident would not have happened if Cooper just ignored Encarnacion. "I said, 'Bob, Edwin never says anything. When does say something, it's so quiet you can't understand him. He's hard to understand anyway because he kind of mumbles.'" Cooper told Baker that he ejected Encarnacion for holding up two fingers, meaning Cooper missed two calls. "Edwin told me (Cooper) looked at him the whole time. Edwin said, 'why you looking at me?' He put up his fingers. I got to go defend Edwin. I usually don't go out and argue unless I think I'm right. It's getting to the point now that they're trying to make a good man bad." http://beta.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...cincinnati.com |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Montana
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
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I saw the whole incident in HD. The ump certainly over-reacted to EE out in the field. Dusty was 100% right (1st time I've ever said that) to argue, and he was mad....He might have lightly brushed Cooper, at worst. The suspension is nonsense. THat being said, I hope the Reds play 'mad' tonight. This team has been terrible the last four nights, and some real emotion is EXACTLY what they need. Lets just direct the anger toward the baseball, not the umps.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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Re: Baker Suspended 2 Games
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The ump, Cooper, is bad. Both teams were unhappy with his strike-zone. I am glad Edwin and Dusty called him out.
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