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Ben Jukich Q&A
It's a bit old Jun 11 '07 when he was still with Oakland. But it has some nice info. Another nugget I scooped up from scouts free weekend.
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Re: Ben Jukich Q&A
Also the midseason prospect report which somehow still had Jukich in it even though he had already been dealt.
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Re: Ben Jukich Q&A
If Jukich's problem is that he needs a changeup, they should hook him up with Mario Soto, as the Reds have been known to do with young pitchers. Imagine his curveball with a Soto-taught changeup, and the Reds could have a very good pitcher on their hands.
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Re: Ben Jukich Q&A
I think this kid is a sleeper. He gets knocked for his age, but the story above explains it a little. He doesn't throw overly hard, but he's a lefty and there really aren't many that do. I'd like to see him start 2008 in AA, but the Reds have a crowd for AA and A+ with Thompson, Fisher, Lecure, Wood, Ondrusek, Avery, Vasquez, Smit and Watson.
He, along with Carlos Fisher, are my sleeper choices. Both have the late start, old for their level tag that gets them left off of a lot of lists by people who look at the age and not the circumstances. If Jukich is ready for the majors at say 26 or 27 and the Reds have the lower cost years through the prime portion of LH pitcher's career that isn't so bad. For the record, many are high on Marcus McBeth and Brad Salmon and they'll be 28 during the 2008 season and neither has had a full season in the bigs yet. If he becomes a guy for the back of the rotation mix, a lefty that can "provide length in the pen" or becomes a LH specialist it is still better than a lot of the more highly touted players will achieve. LH who can throw in the 90s with a good curve can find a major league career. Ones who can do it through their prime on the cheap are pretty valuable resources for a team looking to free up some coin for other areas.
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Re: Ben Jukich Q&A
I kind of expect the Ty Pelland path for him. My guess is that he'll stay a starter until AAA or so, when he'll primarily become a LOOGY.
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Re: Ben Jukich Q&A
Speaking of McBeth here's a story when he was dealt. Don't know if it's been posted prior but it too has a bit of insight.
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Re: Ben Jukich Q&A
Bump!
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Re: Ben Jukich Q&A
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Re: Ben Jukich Q&A
One thing to add with most of this being old is with Jukich's 2008 season the reliever idea is being shredded. He's solidified his status with results and is the next starting pitcher preparing to pass Bailey on the prospect chart.
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Re: Ben Jukich Q&A
It wouldn't surprise me.
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Re: Ben Jukich Q&A
That's not a slam on Bailey, really, just a reflection of Jukich's age and experience to date. Homer will be a better pitcher than Ben and probably Thompson given a year or two. I still believe...but not every kid is ready to go at 22. The Reds haven't helped Homer, either, imo.
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Re: Ben Jukich Q&A
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Couldn't agree more. Folks need to remind themselves that even the Great Voltron Volquez, another highly touted prospect, didn't get it until this year. Homer has certainly showed flashes of greatness. There are defenitely a bit more questions than there were, given his changed mechanics, loss of velocity, etc. Lets hope he gets it together. Failure can be a good thing to learn from, and lets hope Bailey takes those lessons, applies them, adjusts and finds success. Because I sure as hell would love to have him with Edinson, Cueto, Thompson, etc.
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