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Vampire Weekend @Bernie's
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Wayne Krivsky Transactions
Well, as we all know, Wayne is out the door. I've kept track of all his transactions since he took over as GM. I just thought some people might like to look them over.
A hyphen (-) by the name means the player is no longer in the organization. I'm not sure where the three players at the bottom of the list are. I think they've been released and it just hasn't been noted anywhere on the internet. If anyone has additions or corrections, I'd appreciate it. ACQUIRED IN 2005 DRAFT (signed after Krivsky took over) Jake Long -Rob Nickols -Milton Loo ACQUIRED IN 2006 DRAFT -Tyler Hauschild Kel Jones Jordan Smith -Nick Wandless Sean Watson Travis Webb Mike McKennon Brandon Rice Drew Stubbs -Jeremy Burchett -Tony Esquer -Kevin Gunter Chris Heisey Jason Louwsma -Adam Pointer Justin Reed -Rafael Sanchez -Chris White Anthony Gressick Lee Tabor Chris Valaika Josh Ravin Josh Roenicke Danny Dorn Justin Turner Jamie Arneson -Eric Schaler Derrik Lutz Eddy Rodriguez Carson Kainer Logan Parker Tony Brown Todd Waller ACQUIRED IN 2007 DRAFT Devin Mesoraco Todd Frazier Kyle Lotzkar Zack Cozart Scott Carroll Neftali Soto Drew Bowman Evan Hildenbrandt Brandon Waring Alexis Oliveras Harris Honeycutt Jordan Wideman Scott Gaffney Brandon Menchaca Joe Krebs Matt Klinker Shea Snowden Jeff Jeffords Jake Kahaulelio Jeremy Horst Tyler Rhoden Jason Bour Frank Meade Eli Rimes Curtis Partch Derrick Conatser Steve Otterness Brett Bartles Jordan Hotchkiss Brodie Pullen Jeremy Vinyard Ross Hopkins Kevin Hickey Josh Beal Mike Henry ACQUIRED IN TRADE -Ryan Jorgensen Bronson Arroyo (with cash) Dave Ross Brandon Phillips (cash for Timo Perez) -Cody Ross Robert Manuel (cash for Cody Ross) -Esteban Yan (with cash) -Juan Castro -Eddie Guardado (with cash) Gary Majewski Bill Bray -Royce Clayton -Brendan Harris Daryl Thompson -Rheal Cormier -Kyle Lohse -Ryan Franklin (with cash) -Todd Hollandsworth -Scott Schoeneweis (with cash) -Tim Bausher (with cash) -Sun-Woo Kim (with cash) Jerry Gil -Gabriel Suarez (cash for Jason LaRue) -Josh Hamilton (for cash) Jared Burton (rule five) -Jeff Conine (cash for Brendan Harris) Jeff Keppinger -Kirk Saarloos Marcus McBeth (with cash) Ben Jukich -Dan Denham -Jorge Cantu (with cash) Shaun Cumberland Matt Maloney (cash considerations for Chad Moeller) Jose Castro Sean Henry -Buck Coats -Sergio Valenzuela (rule five) Justin James Edinson Volquez Danny Herrera (cash considerations for Juan Apodaca) (future considerations for Tyler Hauschild) Henry Arias Danny Perales MINOR LEAGUE FREE AGENT -Timo Perez -Quinton McCracken -Tuffy Rhodes -Alex Sanchez -Terrence Long -Vincent Davis -Jay Garthwaite -John Castellano -Darrell May -Noochie Varner -Mike Venafro -Marland Williams -James Abbott -Joe Mays -Jarred Leach -Jan Granado -Justin Newman -David Scott -Andy Yount -Brandon Alford -William Caudill -Dan Donaldson -Dane Mason -Jason Winkler -Matt Clark -Chad Bentz Petr Cech -Rick Stahl -Greg Dicso -Kyle Maunus -Jason Johnson -Aaron Herr -Jake Robbins -Dewayne Wise -Ryan Williams -Eric Junge -Wes Wilkerson -Dan Conway -Enrique Cruz -Mike Flannery -Mike Bumatay -Luke Lockwood -Victor Santos -Jason Kershner -Brian O'Connor -Jean Boscan -Tyrell Godwin -Chad Moeller -Mark Bellhorn -Brian Meadows -Andrew Good -Dushan Ruzic -Ricky Stone -Kerry Ligtenberg -Caonabo Cosme Tzu-Kai Chiu -Dustin Hermanson -Bubba Crosby Jamie Gianchou -Mike Edwards Wayne Kendrick Matt Ogrodnik Dan Zeffiro Ryan Baker Mariekson Gregarius Yen-Wen Kuo Jon Adkins -Justin Lehr -Jim Brower Jolbert Cabrera -Andy Green Andy Phillips Adam Pettyjohn Kevin Barker Matteo Pizziconi Luca Panerati -Chris Michalak Paul Bako -Scott Sauerbeck Mike Lincoln -Bryan Bass -Craig Wilson -Dave Gassner -Jacob Ociesa Yuber Rodriguez Juan Duran Jerry Hairston, Jr. Corey Patterson -Chandler Power -Luis Soto Mike Hrynio CLAIMED OFF WAIVERS -Mike Gosling -Matt Kata -Jon Coutlangus Bobby Livingston -Pedro Lopez Alex Smit -Jason Ellison Alvin Colina -Jeff Fiorentino Drew T. Anderson -Jose Capellan (rule five) MAJOR LEAGUE FREE AGENT -Scott Hatteberg Alex Gonzalez -Mike Stanton Francisco Cordero Jeremy Affeldt Josh Fogg DEPARTED IN TRADE Carlos Piste Wily Mo Pena Bobby Basham Dave Williams (with cash) Ben Kozlowski Timo Perez Jon George Cody Ross Kyle Edens Jeff Stevens Brandon Roberts Travis Chick Austin Kearns Felipe Lopez Ryan Wagner Justin Germano Zac Stott Zach Ward Mike Burns Abe Woody Trevor Lawhorn Jason LaRue (with cash) Brad Key Javon Moran Brendan Harris Russ Haltiwanger David Shafer Chris Denorfia Julio Manon Calvin Medlock Brian Shackelford Kyle Lohse Chad Moeller Jeff Conine Marcos Mateo Buck Coats Josh Hamilton Juan Apodaca Carlos Guevara (rule five) Jose Rojas (minor league rule five) Tyler Hauschild Sergio Valenzuela (rule five) Brad Salmon Jose Capellan (rule five) Jon Coutlangus DEPARTED THROUGH WAIVERS Rick White Grant Balfour Ray Olmedo Mike Gosling Pedro Lopez Jeff Fiorentino RELEASED Josh Hancock Brad Cherry Travis Phelps Aaron Garrison Ken Geiersbach Brad Morenko Jared Sanders Robert Wachman Jeff Bruksch Rafael Motooka Habelito Hernandez Javier Colina Aaron Herr Gary Patchett Hector Tiburcio Noochie Varner James Abbott Giancarlo Alvarado Joel Barreto Tim Bausher Josh Hall Jake Robbins Edward Valdez Chad Bentz Jan Granado Rick Stahl William Bergolla Johnny Dillard Stephen Smitherman Matt Garrett Charles O'Neal Thomas Phelps Greg Goetz Tod Johnson Brandon Newman Walter Olmstead Evan Cherry Mark Rodriguez Robert Coello Mayker Sandoval German Melendez Bubba Nelson Luke Hudson Allan Simpson Tuffy Rhodes Frank Menechino Jacob Cruz Vince Davis Terrance Sparks John Castellano Mark Schramek Jeff Urgelles Tony Womack Hannsel Pena Andrew Weimer Ronny Delgado Terrence Long Brian Buchanan Darrell May Jung Keun Bong Jason Vavao Julio Villalon Dan Flaherty James Langham Ray Honey Jeremy Schmidt Aaron Holbert Erik Lohse Mike Nannini Eric Crozier Alex Sanchez Quinton McCracken Dane Sardinha Andy Abad Matt Kata Jason Standridge Brandon Claussen Kerry Ligtenberg Brian Meadows Dustin Hermanson Nick Moran Brandon Camardese Rheal Cormier Wayne Lundgren Jordan Belcher Ben Blumenthal Chris Hammond Esteban Yan Frank Bludau Andy Boutwell Josh Coffey Justin Davis David Griffin Travis Kaats Matt Levering Bryan Prince Leonard Rice Phillip Robbins Mike Venafro Darryl Lawhorn Rich Aurilia Jason Johnson Scott Schoeneweis Joe Mays Ryan Franklin Royce Clayton Todd Hollandsworth Jason Vecchio Wes Smiley Kyle Huddy Scott Chiasson Rainer Feliz Luis Moya Arian Cruz Javier Rumbos Yoni Lasso Philip Gentry Maikol Mesa Brandon Watson William Caudill Chris Gruler Rey Gonzalez Bobby Mosby Jason Winkler Alvaro Ruiz Brett Andrade Greg Dicso Richard Fairchild Eric Junge Dane Mason James Paduch Damian Ursin Chris White Paul Wilson Andy Yount Brandon Alford Brian O'Connor Ryan Williams Ryan Brown Juan Martinez Angel Colon Janel Arias Evandy De Leon Andy Abad Dane Sardinha Chris Michalak Larry Wise Sun-Woo Kim Jason Smith Jay Garthwaite Gabriel Suarez Jarred Leach Matt Clark Andrew Good Justin Newman John Purdom Enmanuel Cabrera Wes Wilkerson Mike Bumatay Luke Lockwood Mike Flannery Eric Schaler Earl Snyder Dan Conway Mike Edwards Raul Tablado Jason Kershner Tyrell Godwin Mark Bellhorn Dewayne Wise Bubba Crosby Enrique Cruz Rick Asadoorian Carlos Bohorquez Steven Kelly Elizardo Ramirez Dushan Ruzic Jean Boscan Jesse Gutierrez Miguel Perez Jeff Bannon Caonabo Cosme Andy Machado Marland Williams Jason Ellison Kirk Saarloos Ryan Jorgensen Eddie Guardado Eric Milton Jorge Cantu Jose Medina Adam Pointer Nick Wandless Rob Nickols Fernando Encarnacion David Scott Rafael Sanchez Tom Pauly Billy Rojo Jeremiah Piepkorn Craig Wilson Anthony Romero Dan Donaldson Dave Gassner Jacob Ociesa Dan Denham Brock Till Chris Michalak Bryan Bass Kyle Maunus Michael Jones Jose Bastardo Gerardo Cabrera Josh Holden Armando Rios Radhames Moreta Bill Penniall Mike Stanton Ricky Stone Kevin Hickey ? Ross Hopkins ? Matt Ogrodnik ? And if you want to look at the trades side-by-side, here you go: Code:
Carlos Piste Ryan Jorgensen Wily Mo Pena Bronson Arroyo (with cash) Bobby Basham Dave Ross Dave Williams (with cash) Brandon Phillips Ben Kozlowski (cash for Timo Perez) Timo Perez Cody Ross Jon George Robert Manuel Cody Ross (cash for Cody Ross) Kyle Edens Esteban Yan (for cash) Jeff Stevens Juan Castro Brandon Roberts Eddie Guardado Travis Chick Gary Majewski Austin Kearns Bill Bray Felipe Lopez Royce Clayton Ryan Wagner Brendan Harris Justin Germano Daryl Thompson Zac Stott Rheal Cormier Zach Ward Kyle Lohse Mike Burns Ryan Franklin (with cash) Abe Woody Todd Hollandsworth Trevor Lawhorn Scott Schoeneweis (with cash) Jason LaRue (with cash) Tim Bausher (with cash) Brad Key Sun-Woo Kim (with cash) Javon Moran Jerry Gil Brendan Harris Gabriel Suarez Russ Haltiwanger (cash for Jason LaRue) David Shafer Josh Hamilton (for cash) Chris Denorfia Jared Burton (rule five) Julio Manon Jeff Conine Calvin Medlock (cash for Brendan Harris) Brian Shackelford Jeff Keppinger Kyle Lohse Kirk Saarloos Chad Moeller Marcus McBeth (with cash) Jeff Conine Ben Jukich Marcos Mateo Dan Denham Buck Coats Jorge Cantu Josh Hamilton Shaun Cumberland Juan Apodaca Matt Maloney Carlos Guevara (rule five) (cash for Chad Moeller) Jose Rojas (minor league rule five) Jose Castro Tyler Hauschild Sean Henry Brad Salmon Buck Coats Jon Coutlangus Sergio Valenzuela (rule five) Justin James Edinson Volquez Danny Ray Herrera (cash for Juan Apodeca) (considerations for Tyler Hauschild) Henry Arias Daniel Perales Last edited by camisadelgolf; 07-07-2008 at 04:32 PM. |
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2013 NL MVP and WS MVP
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Houston, Texas
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Re: Wayne Krivsky Transactions
You can remove the hyphen by Andy Phillips. We re-claimed him from the Mets this past week.
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Box of Frogs
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: Wayne Krivsky Transactions
Curious how the quantity stacks up against other GMs.
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Box of Frogs
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Re: Wayne Krivsky Transactions
One thing about WK's reputation...some of his backers tend to throw sample size out the window on a few of his moves. Guys like Arroyo, Keppinger and D Ross helped Wayne to earn his reputation of picking diamonds out of the rough. But after it plays out, they end up losing a little of their luster.
Bottom line is he hit a few HRs in his tenure, but he picked a bunch of losers as well. I would love to have him in the scouting and development department. But not as a GM. |
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Into de Halls of Valhalla
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Re: Wayne Krivsky Transactions
that's every GM in the history of the game. the luster is decided by the quality of those diamonds, not by the amount of mining.
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Re: Wayne Krivsky Transactions
Ah Sun-Woo Kim.
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Re: Wayne Krivsky Transactions
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Based upon certain circumstances, I think that Wayne was more lucky than good. He had open roster slots and some former top tier prospects were available for a song. He gets credit for making the moves, no doubt. But I don't think that opportunities like that happen too often. And I would be willing to bet that it would be a long time before he found another Hamilton or Phillips. So I would be more interested in the other areas of his game which, IMO, left a bit to be desired. Let him function in a scouting capacity. Let someone else construct a roster. That was his downfall. |
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Where's my chair?
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Re: Wayne Krivsky Transactions
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I don't mind 1 year rolls of the dice with guys like Patterson and Joe Mays as much as the Stanton and AGon type signings... A lot of Wayne's moves on that list were pretty much inconsequential, as are many moves of a lot of GMs... But that's an impressive bit of work.. That must've taken a long time to compile. This will be a good post to save for reference.
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Re: Wayne Krivsky Transactions
Oh, Lord. How much bandwidth are we going to waste rehashing the same old thing again and again?
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Re: Wayne Krivsky Transactions
I am too with the correct working qualifiers and classifications.
1. Against the similiar market size - demorgrahpics of the city and surrounding area. 2.Within the same payroll budget range of 5 millions dollars. 79 mil-74mil-69mil 3. Within the same investor criteria for their invesment portfolio regarding the specific franchise holdings. (how they directed their funds and assets were to be utilized or disbursed.) Since general managers are their agents, and must act under prudent man theory, on the investors behalf. |
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Re: Wayne Krivsky Transactions
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Too much, my friend. Much too much.
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Of all players drafted, signed, or traded for What quantity were pitchers What quantity were defense oriented position players What percentage of the aggregate were these pitchers and defensive type players. How many Krivsky drafts still remain in the system to be judged at the proper time How did Krivsky acquisitions compare to franchises and organizations that had extreme competitive advantages in capital investments over the Cincinnati Reds organization Code:
New York Mets $ 137,793,376 (-63,675,681) Los Angeles Dodgers $ 118,588,536 (-44,470,084) Atlanta Braves $ 102,365,683 (-28,247,988) Philadelphia Phillies $ 98,269,880 (-24,152,185) Chicago Cubs $ 118,345,833 (-44,228,138) St. Louis Cardinals $ 99,624,449 (-25,506,754) Houston Astros $ 88,930,414 (-14,812,719) Cincinnati Reds $ 74,117,695 Last edited by Spring~Fields; 07-07-2008 at 05:53 PM. |
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Re: Wayne Krivsky Transactions
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Results count. But in assessing what sorts of results you're likely to go in the future, past process is a better predictor than past results.
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