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Old 07-07-2008, 03:47 PM   #1
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Wayne Krivsky Transactions

Well, as we all know, Wayne is out the door. I've kept track of all his transactions since he took over as GM. I just thought some people might like to look them over.

A hyphen (-) by the name means the player is no longer in the organization. I'm not sure where the three players at the bottom of the list are. I think they've been released and it just hasn't been noted anywhere on the internet.

If anyone has additions or corrections, I'd appreciate it.

ACQUIRED IN 2005 DRAFT (signed after Krivsky took over)
Jake Long
-Rob Nickols
-Milton Loo

ACQUIRED IN 2006 DRAFT
-Tyler Hauschild
Kel Jones
Jordan Smith
-Nick Wandless
Sean Watson
Travis Webb
Mike McKennon
Brandon Rice
Drew Stubbs
-Jeremy Burchett
-Tony Esquer
-Kevin Gunter
Chris Heisey
Jason Louwsma
-Adam Pointer
Justin Reed
-Rafael Sanchez
-Chris White
Anthony Gressick
Lee Tabor
Chris Valaika
Josh Ravin
Josh Roenicke
Danny Dorn
Justin Turner
Jamie Arneson
-Eric Schaler
Derrik Lutz
Eddy Rodriguez
Carson Kainer
Logan Parker
Tony Brown
Todd Waller

ACQUIRED IN 2007 DRAFT
Devin Mesoraco
Todd Frazier
Kyle Lotzkar
Zack Cozart
Scott Carroll
Neftali Soto
Drew Bowman
Evan Hildenbrandt
Brandon Waring
Alexis Oliveras
Harris Honeycutt
Jordan Wideman
Scott Gaffney
Brandon Menchaca
Joe Krebs
Matt Klinker
Shea Snowden
Jeff Jeffords
Jake Kahaulelio
Jeremy Horst
Tyler Rhoden
Jason Bour
Frank Meade
Eli Rimes
Curtis Partch
Derrick Conatser
Steve Otterness
Brett Bartles
Jordan Hotchkiss
Brodie Pullen
Jeremy Vinyard
Ross Hopkins
Kevin Hickey
Josh Beal
Mike Henry

ACQUIRED IN TRADE
-Ryan Jorgensen
Bronson Arroyo (with cash)
Dave Ross
Brandon Phillips
(cash for Timo Perez)
-Cody Ross
Robert Manuel
(cash for Cody Ross)
-Esteban Yan (with cash)
-Juan Castro
-Eddie Guardado (with cash)
Gary Majewski
Bill Bray
-Royce Clayton
-Brendan Harris
Daryl Thompson
-Rheal Cormier
-Kyle Lohse
-Ryan Franklin (with cash)
-Todd Hollandsworth
-Scott Schoeneweis (with cash)
-Tim Bausher (with cash)
-Sun-Woo Kim (with cash)
Jerry Gil
-Gabriel Suarez
(cash for Jason LaRue)
-Josh Hamilton (for cash)
Jared Burton (rule five)
-Jeff Conine
(cash for Brendan Harris)
Jeff Keppinger
-Kirk Saarloos
Marcus McBeth (with cash)
Ben Jukich
-Dan Denham
-Jorge Cantu (with cash)
Shaun Cumberland
Matt Maloney
(cash considerations for Chad Moeller)
Jose Castro
Sean Henry
-Buck Coats
-Sergio Valenzuela (rule five)
Justin James
Edinson Volquez
Danny Herrera
(cash considerations for Juan Apodaca)
(future considerations for Tyler Hauschild)
Henry Arias
Danny Perales

MINOR LEAGUE FREE AGENT
-Timo Perez
-Quinton McCracken
-Tuffy Rhodes
-Alex Sanchez
-Terrence Long
-Vincent Davis
-Jay Garthwaite
-John Castellano
-Darrell May
-Noochie Varner
-Mike Venafro
-Marland Williams
-James Abbott
-Joe Mays
-Jarred Leach
-Jan Granado
-Justin Newman
-David Scott
-Andy Yount
-Brandon Alford
-William Caudill
-Dan Donaldson
-Dane Mason
-Jason Winkler
-Matt Clark
-Chad Bentz
Petr Cech
-Rick Stahl
-Greg Dicso
-Kyle Maunus
-Jason Johnson
-Aaron Herr
-Jake Robbins
-Dewayne Wise
-Ryan Williams
-Eric Junge
-Wes Wilkerson
-Dan Conway
-Enrique Cruz
-Mike Flannery
-Mike Bumatay
-Luke Lockwood
-Victor Santos
-Jason Kershner
-Brian O'Connor
-Jean Boscan
-Tyrell Godwin
-Chad Moeller
-Mark Bellhorn
-Brian Meadows
-Andrew Good
-Dushan Ruzic
-Ricky Stone
-Kerry Ligtenberg
-Caonabo Cosme
Tzu-Kai Chiu
-Dustin Hermanson
-Bubba Crosby
Jamie Gianchou
-Mike Edwards
Wayne Kendrick
Matt Ogrodnik
Dan Zeffiro
Ryan Baker
Mariekson Gregarius
Yen-Wen Kuo
Jon Adkins
-Justin Lehr
-Jim Brower
Jolbert Cabrera
-Andy Green
Andy Phillips
Adam Pettyjohn
Kevin Barker
Matteo Pizziconi
Luca Panerati
-Chris Michalak
Paul Bako
-Scott Sauerbeck
Mike Lincoln
-Bryan Bass
-Craig Wilson
-Dave Gassner
-Jacob Ociesa
Yuber Rodriguez
Juan Duran
Jerry Hairston, Jr.
Corey Patterson
-Chandler Power
-Luis Soto
Mike Hrynio

CLAIMED OFF WAIVERS
-Mike Gosling
-Matt Kata
-Jon Coutlangus
Bobby Livingston
-Pedro Lopez
Alex Smit
-Jason Ellison
Alvin Colina
-Jeff Fiorentino
Drew T. Anderson
-Jose Capellan (rule five)

MAJOR LEAGUE FREE AGENT
-Scott Hatteberg
Alex Gonzalez
-Mike Stanton
Francisco Cordero
Jeremy Affeldt
Josh Fogg

DEPARTED IN TRADE
Carlos Piste
Wily Mo Pena
Bobby Basham
Dave Williams (with cash)
Ben Kozlowski
Timo Perez
Jon George
Cody Ross
Kyle Edens
Jeff Stevens
Brandon Roberts
Travis Chick
Austin Kearns
Felipe Lopez
Ryan Wagner
Justin Germano
Zac Stott
Zach Ward
Mike Burns
Abe Woody
Trevor Lawhorn
Jason LaRue (with cash)
Brad Key
Javon Moran
Brendan Harris
Russ Haltiwanger
David Shafer
Chris Denorfia
Julio Manon
Calvin Medlock
Brian Shackelford
Kyle Lohse
Chad Moeller
Jeff Conine
Marcos Mateo
Buck Coats
Josh Hamilton
Juan Apodaca
Carlos Guevara (rule five)
Jose Rojas (minor league rule five)
Tyler Hauschild
Sergio Valenzuela (rule five)
Brad Salmon
Jose Capellan (rule five)
Jon Coutlangus

DEPARTED THROUGH WAIVERS
Rick White
Grant Balfour
Ray Olmedo
Mike Gosling
Pedro Lopez
Jeff Fiorentino

RELEASED
Josh Hancock
Brad Cherry
Travis Phelps
Aaron Garrison
Ken Geiersbach
Brad Morenko
Jared Sanders
Robert Wachman
Jeff Bruksch
Rafael Motooka
Habelito Hernandez
Javier Colina
Aaron Herr
Gary Patchett
Hector Tiburcio
Noochie Varner
James Abbott
Giancarlo Alvarado
Joel Barreto
Tim Bausher
Josh Hall
Jake Robbins
Edward Valdez
Chad Bentz
Jan Granado
Rick Stahl
William Bergolla
Johnny Dillard
Stephen Smitherman
Matt Garrett
Charles O'Neal
Thomas Phelps
Greg Goetz
Tod Johnson
Brandon Newman
Walter Olmstead
Evan Cherry
Mark Rodriguez
Robert Coello
Mayker Sandoval
German Melendez
Bubba Nelson
Luke Hudson
Allan Simpson
Tuffy Rhodes
Frank Menechino
Jacob Cruz
Vince Davis
Terrance Sparks
John Castellano
Mark Schramek
Jeff Urgelles
Tony Womack
Hannsel Pena
Andrew Weimer
Ronny Delgado
Terrence Long
Brian Buchanan
Darrell May
Jung Keun Bong
Jason Vavao
Julio Villalon
Dan Flaherty
James Langham
Ray Honey
Jeremy Schmidt
Aaron Holbert
Erik Lohse
Mike Nannini
Eric Crozier
Alex Sanchez
Quinton McCracken
Dane Sardinha
Andy Abad
Matt Kata
Jason Standridge
Brandon Claussen
Kerry Ligtenberg
Brian Meadows
Dustin Hermanson
Nick Moran
Brandon Camardese
Rheal Cormier
Wayne Lundgren
Jordan Belcher
Ben Blumenthal
Chris Hammond
Esteban Yan
Frank Bludau
Andy Boutwell
Josh Coffey
Justin Davis
David Griffin
Travis Kaats
Matt Levering
Bryan Prince
Leonard Rice
Phillip Robbins
Mike Venafro
Darryl Lawhorn
Rich Aurilia
Jason Johnson
Scott Schoeneweis
Joe Mays
Ryan Franklin
Royce Clayton
Todd Hollandsworth
Jason Vecchio
Wes Smiley
Kyle Huddy
Scott Chiasson
Rainer Feliz
Luis Moya
Arian Cruz
Javier Rumbos
Yoni Lasso
Philip Gentry
Maikol Mesa
Brandon Watson
William Caudill
Chris Gruler
Rey Gonzalez
Bobby Mosby
Jason Winkler
Alvaro Ruiz
Brett Andrade
Greg Dicso
Richard Fairchild
Eric Junge
Dane Mason
James Paduch
Damian Ursin
Chris White
Paul Wilson
Andy Yount
Brandon Alford
Brian O'Connor
Ryan Williams
Ryan Brown
Juan Martinez
Angel Colon
Janel Arias
Evandy De Leon
Andy Abad
Dane Sardinha
Chris Michalak
Larry Wise
Sun-Woo Kim
Jason Smith
Jay Garthwaite
Gabriel Suarez
Jarred Leach
Matt Clark
Andrew Good
Justin Newman
John Purdom
Enmanuel Cabrera
Wes Wilkerson
Mike Bumatay
Luke Lockwood
Mike Flannery
Eric Schaler
Earl Snyder
Dan Conway
Mike Edwards
Raul Tablado
Jason Kershner
Tyrell Godwin
Mark Bellhorn
Dewayne Wise
Bubba Crosby
Enrique Cruz
Rick Asadoorian
Carlos Bohorquez
Steven Kelly
Elizardo Ramirez
Dushan Ruzic
Jean Boscan
Jesse Gutierrez
Miguel Perez
Jeff Bannon
Caonabo Cosme
Andy Machado
Marland Williams
Jason Ellison
Kirk Saarloos
Ryan Jorgensen
Eddie Guardado
Eric Milton
Jorge Cantu
Jose Medina
Adam Pointer
Nick Wandless
Rob Nickols
Fernando Encarnacion
David Scott
Rafael Sanchez
Tom Pauly
Billy Rojo
Jeremiah Piepkorn
Craig Wilson
Anthony Romero
Dan Donaldson
Dave Gassner
Jacob Ociesa
Dan Denham
Brock Till
Chris Michalak
Bryan Bass
Kyle Maunus
Michael Jones
Jose Bastardo
Gerardo Cabrera
Josh Holden
Armando Rios
Radhames Moreta
Bill Penniall
Mike Stanton
Ricky Stone
Kevin Hickey ?
Ross Hopkins ?
Matt Ogrodnik ?

And if you want to look at the trades side-by-side, here you go:

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Carlos Piste				Ryan Jorgensen
Wily Mo Pena				Bronson Arroyo (with cash)
Bobby Basham				Dave Ross
Dave Williams (with cash)		Brandon Phillips
Ben Kozlowski				(cash for Timo Perez)
Timo Perez				Cody Ross
Jon George				Robert Manuel
Cody Ross				(cash for Cody Ross)
Kyle Edens				Esteban Yan (for cash)
Jeff Stevens				Juan Castro
Brandon Roberts				Eddie Guardado
Travis Chick				Gary Majewski
Austin Kearns				Bill Bray
Felipe Lopez				Royce Clayton
Ryan Wagner				Brendan Harris
Justin Germano				Daryl Thompson
Zac Stott				Rheal Cormier
Zach Ward				Kyle Lohse
Mike Burns				Ryan Franklin (with cash)
Abe Woody				Todd Hollandsworth
Trevor Lawhorn				Scott Schoeneweis (with cash)
Jason LaRue (with cash)			Tim Bausher (with cash)
Brad Key				Sun-Woo Kim (with cash)
Javon Moran				Jerry Gil
Brendan Harris				Gabriel Suarez
Russ Haltiwanger			(cash for Jason LaRue)
David Shafer				Josh Hamilton (for cash)
Chris Denorfia				Jared Burton (rule five)
Julio Manon				Jeff Conine
Calvin Medlock				(cash for Brendan Harris)
Brian Shackelford			Jeff Keppinger
Kyle Lohse				Kirk Saarloos
Chad Moeller				Marcus McBeth (with cash)
Jeff Conine				Ben Jukich
Marcos Mateo				Dan Denham
Buck Coats				Jorge Cantu
Josh Hamilton				Shaun Cumberland
Juan Apodaca				Matt Maloney
Carlos Guevara (rule five)		(cash for Chad Moeller)
Jose Rojas (minor league rule five)	Jose Castro
Tyler Hauschild				Sean Henry
Brad Salmon				Buck Coats
Jon Coutlangus				Sergio Valenzuela (rule five)
					Justin James
					Edinson Volquez
					Danny Ray Herrera
					(cash for Juan Apodeca)
					(considerations for Tyler Hauschild)
					Henry Arias
					Daniel Perales

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Old 07-07-2008, 03:58 PM   #2
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Re: Wayne Krivsky Transactions

You can remove the hyphen by Andy Phillips. We re-claimed him from the Mets this past week.
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Curious how the quantity stacks up against other GMs.
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One thing about WK's reputation...some of his backers tend to throw sample size out the window on a few of his moves. Guys like Arroyo, Keppinger and D Ross helped Wayne to earn his reputation of picking diamonds out of the rough. But after it plays out, they end up losing a little of their luster.

Bottom line is he hit a few HRs in his tenure, but he picked a bunch of losers as well. I would love to have him in the scouting and development department. But not as a GM.
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:13 PM   #5
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Bottom line is he hit a few HRs in his tenure, but he picked a bunch of losers as well.
that's every GM in the history of the game. the luster is decided by the quality of those diamonds, not by the amount of mining.
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Ah Sun-Woo Kim.
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that's every GM in the history of the game. the luster is decided by the quality of those diamonds, not by the amount of mining.
But you'd have to make the determination if the method of finding those diamonds will likely yield additional diamonds in the future.

Based upon certain circumstances, I think that Wayne was more lucky than good. He had open roster slots and some former top tier prospects were available for a song. He gets credit for making the moves, no doubt. But I don't think that opportunities like that happen too often. And I would be willing to bet that it would be a long time before he found another Hamilton or Phillips. So I would be more interested in the other areas of his game which, IMO, left a bit to be desired.

Let him function in a scouting capacity. Let someone else construct a roster. That was his downfall.
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that's every GM in the history of the game. the luster is decided by the quality of those diamonds, not by the amount of mining.
Sure, but you also have to look at the lumps of coal.. moves that set the team back by wasting money and tying up roster spots.

I don't mind 1 year rolls of the dice with guys like Patterson and Joe Mays as much as the Stanton and AGon type signings...

A lot of Wayne's moves on that list were pretty much inconsequential, as are many moves of a lot of GMs...

But that's an impressive bit of work.. That must've taken a long time to compile. This will be a good post to save for reference.
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Oh, Lord. How much bandwidth are we going to waste rehashing the same old thing again and again?
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Curious how the quantity stacks up against other GMs.
I am too with the correct working qualifiers and classifications.

1. Against the similiar market size - demorgrahpics of the city and surrounding area.

2.Within the same payroll budget range of 5 millions dollars. 79 mil-74mil-69mil

3. Within the same investor criteria for their invesment portfolio regarding the specific franchise holdings. (how they directed their funds and assets were to be utilized or disbursed.)
Since general managers are their agents, and must act under prudent man theory, on the investors behalf.
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Oh, Lord. How much bandwidth are we going to waste rehashing the same old thing again and again?

Too much, my friend. Much too much.
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I am too with the correct working qualifiers and classifications.

1. Against the similiar market size - demorgrahpics of the city and surrounding area.

2.Within the same payroll budget range of 5 millions dollars. 79 mil-74mil-69mil

3. Within the same investor criteria for their invesment portfolio regarding the specific franchise holdings. (how they directed their funds and assets were to be utilized or disbursed.)
Since general managers are their agents, and must act under prudent man theory, on the investors behalf.
While I know what you are getting at (and there is some validity), I think you are overthinking things.
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Well, as we all know, Wayne is out the door. I've kept track of all his transactions since he took over as GM. I just thought some people might like to look them over.
We all know that the Reds organization had some pitching and defense weakness from ten or more years neglect and poor planning from bad management, dating back to the Bowden years.

Of all players drafted, signed, or traded for
What quantity were pitchers
What quantity were defense oriented position players
What percentage of the aggregate were these pitchers and defensive type players.

How many Krivsky drafts still remain in the system to be judged at the proper time

How did Krivsky acquisitions compare to franchises and organizations that had extreme competitive advantages in capital investments over the Cincinnati Reds organization


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New York Mets         $ 137,793,376    (-63,675,681) 
Los Angeles Dodgers   $ 118,588,536    (-44,470,084) 
Atlanta Braves        $ 102,365,683    (-28,247,988) 
Philadelphia Phillies $ 98,269,880     (-24,152,185) 

Chicago Cubs          $ 118,345,833    (-44,228,138) 
St. Louis Cardinals   $ 99,624,449     (-25,506,754) 
Houston Astros        $ 88,930,414     (-14,812,719)

Cincinnati Reds $ 74,117,695

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But you'd have to make the determination if the method of finding those diamonds will likely yield additional diamonds in the future.
Exactly, stumbling across a big diamond in a field doesn't make me qualified for leading the next expedition.

Results count. But in assessing what sorts of results you're likely to go in the future, past process is a better predictor than past results.
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While I know what you are getting at (and there is some validity), I think you are overthinking things.
some validity ?

I made sure I wrote those words, from finance and accounting correctly as is traditionaly accepted standards, norms, and practices, in the business world within the capitalistic market system, there is much validity.
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