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Old 07-27-2008, 05:17 PM   #1
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Reds one of two teams pursuing Gerald Laird
The Rangers activated Gerald Laird off the disabled list on Saturday after he missed a month because of a pulled hamstring muscle. He made his first start on Sunday and continues to draw interest from both the Reds and the Yankees. The Rangers want top young pitching prospects in return and that's keeping any deal from getting done right now.

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Old 07-27-2008, 05:19 PM   #2
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Laird would be an upgrade, but if its a top young pitcher, I'd want Teagarden. A guy like Travis Wood for Laird would be ok.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:21 PM   #3
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I prefer Teagarden but I'd settle for Laird.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:22 PM   #4
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Salty. Doable?
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:24 PM   #5
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Re: Reds one of two teams pursuing Gerald Laird
I don't understand this at all. The grass is greener on the other side, I guess.

Gerald Laird, 28: 1064 AB, .257/.308/.387
Dave Ross, 31: 1095 AB, .226/.312/.443

Well, I guess he hits for a higher batting average. That should make some people happy, even if he's not actually an upgrade. Reds baseball -- gotta love it.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:26 PM   #6
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I prefer Teagarden but I'd settle for Laird.
Eighther one of Teagarden or Laird would be a huge improvement to what we've got.

Neighther one of our catchers is very good behind the plate.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:26 PM   #7
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I don't understand this at all. The grass is greener on the other side, I guess.

Gerald Laird, 28: 1064 AB, .257/.308/.387
Dave Ross, 31: 1095 AB, .226/.312/.443

Well, I guess he hits for a higher batting average. That should make some people happy, even if he's not actually an upgrade. Reds baseball -- gotta love it.
Laird can actually catch the ball. Ross not so much. Since the position is called Catcher, that's important.

Sorry for the snark. I like your posts, but can't wait for Ross to be out from behind the plate in Cincy.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:29 PM   #8
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Laird can actually catch the ball. Ross not so much. Since the position is called Catcher, that's important.
Without getting into the specifics of Laird's defense versus Ross', because I don't know enough about Laird to have an educated opinion, I agree in principle. Catcher is not a spot where I just wave my hand and say "play whoever hits better."
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:38 PM   #9
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Without getting into the specifics of Laird's defense versus Ross', because I don't know enough about Laird to have an educated opinion, I agree in principle. Catcher is not a spot where I just wave my hand and say "play whoever hits better."
Please, please don't bring Laird to town to be the starting catcher. I watch a lot of Ranger games and truly believe he is only marginally better than Ross. Both are basically nice back ups but not the kind you want catching 130 games a year.

Bringing in Laird would be a lateral move.
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Please, please don't bring Laird to town to be the starting catcher. I watch a lot of Ranger games and truly believe he is only marginally better than Ross. Both are basically nice back ups but not the kind you want catching 130 games a year.

Bringing in Laird would be a lateral move.
Sounds like you've seen him more than me, so I'll stand corrected. Its hard to swallow though, IMO anybody has to be better than Ross back there.
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Please, please don't bring Laird to town to be the starting catcher. I watch a lot of Ranger games and truly believe he is only marginally better than Ross. Both are basically nice back ups but not the kind you want catching 130 games a year.

Bringing in Laird would be a lateral move.
I agree with this. He's an upgrade over Ross, but it's not substantial. He's certainly not worth giving up a top pitching prospect for.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:49 PM   #12
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So who, of the 3 catchers in Texas, would be the realistic upgrade for the Reds?
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Laird can actually catch the ball. Ross not so much. Since the position is called Catcher, that's important.

Sorry for the snark. I like your posts, but can't wait for Ross to be out from behind the plate in Cincy.
I agree, Ross is a pretty poor receiver, but at the end of the day, overall production and the overall level of talent in the organization is what I care about.

If all you want is a guy who can catch the ball, I don't necessarily disagree with that approach. But we've got a few of those in the minor leagues. There's no need to give up talent in a trade for a catch-and-throw catcher.

Release Javy, call up Hannigan, Tatum or whoever our best defensive catcher is these days. If I trade talent away, I would want to actually fix a hole in the team, not merely shift the problem from defense to offense.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:51 PM   #14
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Given the catcher stable in Texas of Salty, Teagarden, Max Ramirez and Laird, the one that I would not really want is Laird. I hope the Reds set their sights higher. Teagarden really ought to be available.
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I don't understand this at all. The grass is greener on the other side, I guess.

Gerald Laird, 28: 1064 AB, .257/.308/.387
Dave Ross, 31: 1095 AB, .226/.312/.443

Well, I guess he hits for a higher batting average. That should make some people happy, even if he's not actually an upgrade. Reds baseball -- gotta love it.
He's different. And different is better. Right?
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