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HokieRed · 07-28-2008, 10:35 PM

Would be really interesting to see the Reds do something out of the ordinary for a change: how about signing Bonds? Is there anything you can think of that would create more fan interest the rest of the way?

pahster · 07-28-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HokieRed

Would be really interesting to see the Reds do something out of the ordinary for a change: how about signing Bonds? Is there anything you can think of that would create more fan interest the rest of the way?

Where's he going to play?

blumj · 07-29-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pahster

Where's he going to play?

Wherever he wants.

WVRedsFan · 07-29-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pahster

Where's he going to play?

Shortstop?

Just kidding, of course. If Dunn is traded (which I have stated over and over that I don't think that will happen), he'd play LF. But as conservative as the city of Cincinnati is, that's not going to happen, I don't think.

This team has so many holes right now that they don't need another one.

But mark this down. If it would happen, I would not be surprised. Not one bit.

VR · 07-29-2008, 12:37 AM

So, there's no market for our starting catcher? Just the backup?

buckeyenut · 07-29-2008, 06:39 AM

Posada is down for season ending surgery for NYY. Do they need Ross or Valentin to fill a hole out there?

Jpup · 07-29-2008, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeyenut

Posada is down for season ending surgery for NYY. Do they need Ross or Valentin to fill a hole out there?

No. They have an excellent catcher in Jose Molina and the rumor is they are trying to pry his brother, Bengie, from the Giants.

MikeS21 · 07-29-2008, 08:15 AM

It seems to me that the July 31st deadline isn't what it once was. For one thing, teams are not as active. Part of the reality is as others have said. Teams aren't willing to cough up prospects. If you look at the market, most players on the "block" are teams' overpaid underachieving players, rental players, or generally dead weight. Basically junk.

I don't expect too much movement by the Reds. There may be a minor deal or two, but nothing that will turn the season around. The trading chips the Reds have just won't bring in the horses to to make a run at 2008. Best to fall back and regroup and decide what you want the team to look like in 2009 ... and hope your amateur scouts eat their Wheaties in preparation for all those compensation picks in next June's draft.

PuffyPig · 07-29-2008, 08:26 AM

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Imagine his worth without the extension.

Without the extension, Arroyo would be a FA to be, and just a rental player in a trade.

He'd be worth about as much as we got for Lohse last year i.e. a Matt Maloney type (#4-5 starter), who's actually has a higher value today than when we traded for him.

REDREAD · 07-29-2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Without the extension, Arroyo would be a FA to be, and just a rental player in a trade.

He'd be worth about as much as we got for Lohse last year i.e. a Matt Maloney type (#4-5 starter), who's actually has a higher value today than when we traded for him.

I disagree. If Arroyo was a FA to be, he'd be worth quite a bit.
Certainly more than Lohse.
Lohse was a given mediocrity and had a long track record of basically being a 5.00 ERA pitcher.

On the other hand, Arroyo is streaky. He potentially can win 5 starts in a row for a good team. Of course, there's a risk because he isn't always consistent, but the upside is pretty big. Lohse had virtually no upside.

Bronson's contract makes him very hard to move. As they said, teams feel that just assuming Bronson's salary is good enough..

RedLegSuperStar · 07-29-2008, 03:07 PM

Cincinnati Enquirer stated in todays paper that we had scouts at the Texas game last night scouting Salty and Laird.

I'd like to see the Reds pursue a Saltalamacchia and Blalock deal.. perhaps with Homer Bailey and some plus prospects in return as well as maybe Weathers or Affeldt.. because they are only 6.5 back in the Wild Card.

OnBaseMachine · 07-29-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar

Cincinnati Enquirer stated in todays paper that we had scouts at the Texas game last night scouting Salty and Laird.

I'd like to see the Reds pursue a Saltalamacchia and Blalock deal.. perhaps with Homer Bailey and some plus prospects in return as well as maybe Weathers or Affeldt.. because they are only 6.5 back in the Wild Card.

Nice. Hopefully we can get a deal done for Salty by Thursday and shore up the catching situation. Then focus on getting a rangy shortstop and center fielder.

flyer85 · 07-29-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine

focus on getting a rangy shortstop and center fielder.

already have the rangy SS

OnBaseMachine · 07-29-2008, 04:42 PM

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already have the rangy SS

I assume you mean Phillips? I've long been on board with moving him to shortstop. I think he could be an above average shortstop and moving him to SS opens up second base for Chris Valaika, who could be an above average hitter at second base IMO.

flyer85 · 07-29-2008, 04:44 PM

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I assume you mean Phillips?

I have seen no reason he wouldn't play excellent defense at SS. Great range, strong arm, good hands. He will be a lot more valuable as a S, especially for a team that doesn't have one.

07-28-2008, 10:35 PM	#16
HokieRed Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,053	Re: Reds Related Rumors Would be really interesting to see the Reds do something out of the ordinary for a change: how about signing Bonds? Is there anything you can think of that would create more fan interest the rest of the way?

07-29-2008, 12:37 AM	#20
VR Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 8,218	Re: Reds Related Rumors So, there's no market for our starting catcher? Just the backup? __________________ “Our team is a team full of fighters. They never panic. We don't necessarily get all the hits we want all the time, but we find a way to win.” – Dusty Baker

07-29-2008, 06:39 AM	#21
buckeyenut Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,721	Re: Reds Related Rumors Posada is down for season ending surgery for NYY. Do they need Ross or Valentin to fill a hole out there?

07-29-2008, 08:15 AM	#23
MikeS21 Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,653	Re: Reds Related Rumors It seems to me that the July 31st deadline isn't what it once was. For one thing, teams are not as active. Part of the reality is as others have said. Teams aren't willing to cough up prospects. If you look at the market, most players on the "block" are teams' overpaid underachieving players, rental players, or generally dead weight. Basically junk. I don't expect too much movement by the Reds. There may be a minor deal or two, but nothing that will turn the season around. The trading chips the Reds have just won't bring in the horses to to make a run at 2008. Best to fall back and regroup and decide what you want the team to look like in 2009 ... and hope your amateur scouts eat their Wheaties in preparation for all those compensation picks in next June's draft. __________________ Opinions are like belly buttons. Everybody has one, and they don't want someone else's shoved into their face.

07-29-2008, 03:07 PM	#26
RedLegSuperStar Greatness In The Making Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,078	Re: Reds Related Rumors Cincinnati Enquirer stated in todays paper that we had scouts at the Texas game last night scouting Salty and Laird. I'd like to see the Reds pursue a Saltalamacchia and Blalock deal.. perhaps with Homer Bailey and some plus prospects in return as well as maybe Weathers or Affeldt.. because they are only 6.5 back in the Wild Card. __________________ "I could watch video of Griffey swinging all day. It's like baseball porn." - C. Trent Rosecrans 2008 Reds Record When I Attend: 9W - 5L 2009 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 2L 2010 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 0L 2011 Reds Record When I Attend: 0W - 1L Last edited by RedLegSuperStar; 07-29-2008 at 03:12 PM.

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