If Dunn isn't signed long term, Jay Bruce needs a long term extension

[Ghosts of 1990]

I'd love to sign Adam Dunn long term nemesis. I've wanted them to do it since 2002. Every once in a while you need to take a shot. Go for the downs, swing for the fences, etc. They didn't do it with Dunn and now they're going to lose a valuable commodity. You can just tell when a guy is going to be a commodity. I could with Dunn and I can with Bruce. They don't come along often. It's ironic that their paths cross. Either one of them could be a face of this franchise, something we've lacked for a LONG LONG time, since Larkin in the early to mid 90's.

They've missed the boat on keeping Dunn. They need to take a chance and make Bruce the guy they build around. Solidify the main piece, then go and get everything else. Why is that so hard for Castellini and Company?

[BLEEDS]

Originally Posted by JayBruce32

I'd love to sign Adam Dunn long term nemesis. I've wanted them to do it since 2002. Every once in a while you need to take a shot. Go for the downs, swing for the fences, etc. They didn't do it with Dunn and now they're going to lose a valuable commodity. You can just tell when a guy is going to be a commodity. I could with Dunn and I can with Bruce. They don't come along often. It's ironic that their paths cross. Either one of them could be a face of this franchise, something we've lacked for a LONG LONG time, since Larkin in the early to mid 90's.

They've missed the boat on keeping Dunn. They need to take a chance and make Bruce the guy they build around. Solidify the main piece, then go and get everything else. Why is that so hard for Castellini and Company?

Again, IF they had any idea on how to build a nucleus of a team, they wouldn't be letting Dunn go in the first place.
What makes you think they would have the wherewithall to sign Bruce to an extension?!?!

As much as I rail on BP for his flaws, I DO think that was a pretty decent extension they signed him too. Even if he NEVER is able to hit RHP better than Corey Patterson, as long as he continues to sport a Gold-Glove Caliber 2nd base, his contract is not going to be out of line until 2011:

09:$4.75M, 10:$6.75M, 11:$11M, 12:$12M club option ($1M buyout)

His 08-10 numbers are probably what he would have received in Arbitration if he didn't improve one iota.
He does get accelerators if he wins awards - like Gold Gloves

If he's winning Gold Gloves and still OPS's .700 against RHP, 2011 will be his last year in a Reds uni, IMO. HOPEFULLY he can improve and be worth it.

Of course, this contract was done under WK's watch. I haven't seen Jocketty do one darn thing yet, which in and of itself is grounds for questioning his value. Unless you want to give him credit for keeping Bruce out of the bigs until he surpassed his Super 2. Other than that, what's he done to give you a warm and fuzzy?!?!

PEACE

-BLEEDS

[redsfanmia]

The Reds control Bruce for the next six years, why sign him to long term deal now?

[Ghosts of 1990]

Originally Posted by redsfanmia

The Reds control Bruce for the next six years, why sign him to long term deal now?

Well I think we've already went over that in this very thread.

[redsfanmia]

Originally Posted by JayBruce32

Well I think we've already went over that in this very thread.

Thanks for the heads up I didnt read the whole thing.

[Ghosts of 1990]

Originally Posted by redsfanmia

Thanks for the heads up I didnt read the whole thing.

no problem my friend

[Ahhhorsepoo]

those stats didn't show the much better defensive range for bruce over dunn...