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smoke6 · 10-11-2008, 10:24 AM

Alright guys, I love the Reds, but I'm a Browns fan. I know a majority of RZ posters are Bengals fans, that's why I want your outside opinion.

Are the Browns making the wrong decision by sticking with Derek Anderson? DA currently holds the WORST QB rating in the NFL. Yes, the Browns beat the Bengals 2 weeks ago, but with Carson the game would have been much different. That game was TERRIBLE on both sides.

Let's try to keep all the Bungle and Clown comments out of the discussion. I am just curious if the "outside world" thinks it's time for a change at QB for the Browns.

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TeamSelig · 10-11-2008, 12:07 PM

It is definitely time to get him some regular reps in so that he is geared up for a full time starting role next season.

BEETTLEBUG · 10-11-2008, 01:12 PM

I think also that Brady is the MAN

Highlifeman21 · 10-11-2008, 01:36 PM

I can't imagine Brady Quinn doing anything better for the Browns than is current being done by Derek Anderson.

Mario-Rijo · 10-11-2008, 02:41 PM

Derek Anderson was an interception throwing machine in college and now that he has been figured out he is trying to be what he is not and that's a high percentage/low turnover passer. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. I'd say Quinn should be given an opportunity, he was the superior college player and by far. He's going to have his bad days but I think he's a good pro QB in waiting and Derek Anderson is going to always be a high priced backup at best.

GAC · 10-11-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DIRTBAG

Are the Browns making the wrong decision by sticking with Derek Anderson?

As a Browns fans, they made a STUPID decision beginning last year (and I said it then) in giving Anderson that contract. But Romeo is gonna ride that Anderson wagon, because he was instrumental in retaining him.

They should have sold high!

On field conditions have to be perfect for Anderson to succeed. He's not a good improviser. He can throw the medium pass with accuracy; but short or long? Look out!

The Browns problem, since the season began, is the health of various key players. One is "dainty" Stallworth.

guttle11 · 10-11-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Highlifeman21

I can't imagine Brady Quinn doing anything better for the Browns than is current being done by Derek Anderson.

Today? I agree.

But the Browns aren't in a position to worry about today. They're a flawed team that, quite frankly, isn't going to win the way they are currently built (a near carbon copy of the Bengals). We know what Anderson is; a decent QB that really has no middle ground. He's either great or awful.

Quinn may be better, and they essentially ruined two drafts (after the Thomas pick) to get him. He needs to play. He's the future 5 years down the road...they need to know if it's a good future or a bad one.

BoydsOfSummer · 10-11-2008, 05:35 PM

I'm fairly sick of watching Derek throw 12 yard bullets into the ground 5 yards behind the receiver. He played just good enough against the 'Gals to keep starting; I'm afraid it will be that way the rest of the year.

I'm with GAC, they boo-booed on that contract, although isn't a real bad cap killer.

Still, I'll be woofin' somewhere on Monday night!

Tom Servo · 10-11-2008, 07:47 PM

Ken Dorsey!

cincrazy · 10-11-2008, 11:32 PM

Actually, according to Peter King of si.com, the Browns can cut DA at the end of the year, and won't have to pay the rest of the contract. So there is a way for them to get out of it, only the first year is guaranteed.

With that being said, they need to bench him immediately. He's not the answer in the present, nor in the future. This season is all but over for the Brownies, might as well give Quinn some experience.

smoke6 · 10-12-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cincrazy

Actually, according to Peter King of si.com, the Browns can cut DA at the end of the year, and won't have to pay the rest of the contract. So there is a way for them to get out of it, only the first year is guaranteed.

With that being said, they need to bench him immediately. He's not the answer in the present, nor in the future. This season is all but over for the Brownies, might as well give Quinn some experience.

You're rignt. I have also read that Quinn's incentives kick in if he plays 50% of teh snaps this year. Maybe the Browns are waiting to keep from shelling out cash to him too. I really hope they would be more concerned about winning them saving $$$ though.

GAC · 10-12-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cincrazy

Actually, according to Peter King of si.com, the Browns can cut DA at the end of the year, and won't have to pay the rest of the contract. So there is a way for them to get out of it, only the first year is guaranteed.

If that is true, then that is good news.

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With that being said, they need to bench him immediately. He's not the answer in the present, nor in the future. This season is all but over for the Brownies, might as well give Quinn some experience.

Signed for 5 yrs @ 20 mil with incentives that could take it to 30 mil.

We paid him last year to sit the bench while observing/learning. I have no problem with that.

Give the kid his chance and make Anderson the backup. Isn't Brady suppose to be the future? IMO, it's silly what they are currently doing up there.

He should have gotten some playing time vs the Bengals. At least a a quarter or two.

This is all Crennel's decision, and I'll be glad when he's shown the door too.

That was another extension that I thought was rash. He wasn't going anywhere. Let the '08 season determine if it was justified or not.

10-11-2008, 10:24 AM	#1
smoke6 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Topsail, NC Posts: 369	Anderson or Quinn? Alright guys, I love the Reds, but I'm a Browns fan. I know a majority of RZ posters are Bengals fans, that's why I want your outside opinion. Are the Browns making the wrong decision by sticking with Derek Anderson? DA currently holds the WORST QB rating in the NFL. Yes, the Browns beat the Bengals 2 weeks ago, but with Carson the game would have been much different. That game was TERRIBLE on both sides. Let's try to keep all the Bungle and Clown comments out of the discussion. I am just curious if the "outside world" thinks it's time for a change at QB for the Browns. 6 __________________ SECOND PLACE DOESN'T CONCERN ME

10-11-2008, 12:07 PM	#2
TeamSelig Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,727	Re: Anderson or Quinn? It is definitely time to get him some regular reps in so that he is geared up for a full time starting role next season.

10-11-2008, 01:12 PM	#3
BEETTLEBUG Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WEST CARROLLTON OHIO Posts: 1,227	Re: Anderson or Quinn? I think also that Brady is the MAN

10-11-2008, 01:36 PM	#4
Highlifeman21 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol, just around the corner from ESPN Posts: 8,694	Re: Anderson or Quinn? I can't imagine Brady Quinn doing anything better for the Browns than is current being done by Derek Anderson.

10-11-2008, 02:41 PM	#5
Mario-Rijo HOF CLASS OF '12 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 8,989	Re: Anderson or Quinn? Derek Anderson was an interception throwing machine in college and now that he has been figured out he is trying to be what he is not and that's a high percentage/low turnover passer. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. I'd say Quinn should be given an opportunity, he was the superior college player and by far. He's going to have his bad days but I think he's a good pro QB in waiting and Derek Anderson is going to always be a high priced backup at best. __________________ 2008 Reds Draft Prospect RZ Scouting Reports 2009 Reds Draft Prospect RZ Scouting Reports 2010 Reds Draft Prospect RZ Scouting Reports "You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." --Woody Hayes

10-11-2008, 05:35 PM	#8
BoydsOfSummer So Long Uncle Joe Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hamilton,Ohio Posts: 3,849	Re: Anderson or Quinn? I'm fairly sick of watching Derek throw 12 yard bullets into the ground 5 yards behind the receiver. He played just good enough against the 'Gals to keep starting; I'm afraid it will be that way the rest of the year. I'm with GAC, they boo-booed on that contract, although isn't a real bad cap killer. Still, I'll be woofin' somewhere on Monday night! __________________ 0 Value Over Replacement Poster "Sit over here next to Johnathan (Bench)...sit right here, he's smart."--Sparky Anderson

10-11-2008, 07:47 PM	#9
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,393	Re: Anderson or Quinn? Ken Dorsey! __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

10-11-2008, 11:32 PM	#10
cincrazy Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Vienna, OH Posts: 4,123	Re: Anderson or Quinn? Actually, according to Peter King of si.com, the Browns can cut DA at the end of the year, and won't have to pay the rest of the contract. So there is a way for them to get out of it, only the first year is guaranteed. With that being said, they need to bench him immediately. He's not the answer in the present, nor in the future. This season is all but over for the Brownies, might as well give Quinn some experience.

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