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AmarilloRed · 12-08-2008, 01:31 PM

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The media workroom isn't even half filled, but that's because it holds the same amount of seats as you find at Camden Yards. And yes, there's a joke in there somewhere.

It wouldn't surprise me if catcher Ramon Hernandez is dealt this week, though the Orioles are expected to be busier after the meetings.

It's possible that they won't have to eat as much of his contract as originally anticipated, because one of the interested teams also is looking to dump salary. In return, the Orioles would get a utility-type player who could move from the infield to the outfield.

The Cincinnati Reds and Houston Astros are two teams looking for a catcher

http://masnsports.com/2008/12/catch-a-falling-star.html

Freel fits the above description.I don't know how reliable this is, but I thought it was interesting. I wouldn't mind moving Freel, especially if it would fill a position of need.

wheels · 12-08-2008, 01:33 PM

How is this a rumor?

Speculation is not rumor.

edabbs44 · 12-08-2008, 01:35 PM

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Ramon Hernandez Contract Exchange?
By Tim Dierkes [December 8 at 12:21pm CST]
According to Roch Kubatko of MASN Online, one of the teams interested in catcher Ramon Hernandez would like to swap contracts. The team would send the Orioles a utility guy who can play the infield and outfield.

Kubatko goes on to note that the Reds and Astros are looking for catching. Connecting the dots, Kubatko may have been talking about Ryan Freel above. Hernandez has $9MM left on his contract, while Freel has $4MM.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

Makes more sense than speculation, as those dots are easily connected.

wheels · 12-08-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by edabbs44

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

Makes more sense than speculation, as those dots are easily connected.

Yeah, but when I read the word RUMOR, I usually see some citing of sources and specific names.

I know we could connect the dots, but it doesn't really elicit much else. Not more than what we usually do around here, anyway.

OnBaseMachine · 12-08-2008, 01:45 PM

How good defensively is Hernandez these days? If he's still above average then I would definitely do this deal.

*BaseClogger* · 12-08-2008, 01:55 PM

I'd rather have Shoppach, Snyder, and Schneider in that order...

corkedbat · 12-08-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by *BaseClogger*

I'd rather have Shoppach, Snyder, and Schneider in that order...

I could think of several other catchers I'd rather have, but I like acquiring him for freel alone and saving chips for a SS or LF deal

wheels · 12-08-2008, 03:17 PM

If this happens I'll eat something that's been in extreme close proximity to my butt.

Puffy · 12-08-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wheels

If this happens I'll eat something that's been in extreme close proximity to my butt.

Back hair??

wheels · 12-08-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Puffy

Back hair??

You name it.

Rojo · 12-08-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wheels

If this happens I'll eat something that's been in extreme close proximity to my butt.

Can you narrow it down a little more?

Tom Servo · 12-08-2008, 05:36 PM

I like the idea of trading off Freel in order to get a catcher, I'm just not sure of Hernandez's fielding ability. Can anybody clue me in on how he ranks defensively?

OnBaseMachine · 12-08-2008, 06:22 PM

Freel for Ramon Hernandez?
Posted by JohnFay at 12/8/2008 6:05 PM EST on Cincinnati.com

Here's the first decent rumor I've heard: The Reds and Orioles are talking about a Ryan Freel-for-Ramon Hernandez trade.

It makes sense: The Orioles would like to move Hernandez's $8.5 million salary. The Reds would like to move Freel's $4 million salary. The Reds are looking for a front line catcher. The Orioles need outfield and utility help.

Hernandez, 32, hit .257/.308/.406 last year. He did not have a good year defensively.

Stay tuned. May be nothing, but I've heard from people on both sides. That's usually a good indication that something is happening.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...cincinnati.com

Spitball · 12-08-2008, 06:29 PM

I know he doesn't throw very well and is injured a lot. Didn't he have a major collision at the plate with Jermaine Dye several years ago?

reds44 · 12-08-2008, 06:36 PM

If Freel gets traded, who platoons with Dickerson in CF?

12-08-2008, 01:33 PM	#2
wheels Dented and Spent Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,538	Re: Trade Rumor- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? How is this a rumor? Speculation is not rumor. __________________ "Opening Day.... Pfffft! We get all excited, thinking they're gonna have some kinda great year....Same thing over and over. Disappointment. What time do you want me to come over?" - My Dad. Opening Day 2012.

12-08-2008, 01:45 PM	#5
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,655	Re: Trade Rumor- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? How good defensively is Hernandez these days? If he's still above average then I would definitely do this deal. __________________ I miss Adam Dunn.

12-08-2008, 01:55 PM	#6
BaseClogger WOOOOO!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 6,077	Re: Trade Rumor- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? I'd rather have Shoppach, Snyder, and Schneider in that order... __________________ "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

12-08-2008, 03:17 PM	#8
wheels Dented and Spent Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,538	Re: Trade Rumor- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? If this happens I'll eat something that's been in extreme close proximity to my butt. __________________ "Opening Day.... Pfffft! We get all excited, thinking they're gonna have some kinda great year....Same thing over and over. Disappointment. What time do you want me to come over?" - My Dad. Opening Day 2012.

12-08-2008, 05:36 PM	#12
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,409	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? I like the idea of trading off Freel in order to get a catcher, I'm just not sure of Hernandez's fielding ability. Can anybody clue me in on how he ranks defensively? __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

12-08-2008, 06:22 PM	#13
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,655	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? Freel for Ramon Hernandez? Posted by JohnFay at 12/8/2008 6:05 PM EST on Cincinnati.com Here's the first decent rumor I've heard: The Reds and Orioles are talking about a Ryan Freel-for-Ramon Hernandez trade. It makes sense: The Orioles would like to move Hernandez's $8.5 million salary. The Reds would like to move Freel's $4 million salary. The Reds are looking for a front line catcher. The Orioles need outfield and utility help. Hernandez, 32, hit .257/.308/.406 last year. He did not have a good year defensively. Stay tuned. May be nothing, but I've heard from people on both sides. That's usually a good indication that something is happening. http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...cincinnati.com __________________ I miss Adam Dunn.

12-08-2008, 06:29 PM	#14
Spitball Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 5,491	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? I know he doesn't throw very well and is injured a lot. Didn't he have a major collision at the plate with Jermaine Dye several years ago? __________________ "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."- Noam Chomsky

12-08-2008, 06:36 PM	#15
reds44 #TheReturn Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 23,663	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? If Freel gets traded, who platoons with Dickerson in CF?

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