Why is Hal McCoy always wrong? - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Wheelhouse · 12-08-2008, 11:36 PM

Seems like he never gets it right on major organizational moves and trades.

Mario-Rijo · 12-08-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

For Hal's sake, hopefully this happens........the reality is, as much I respect Hal McCoy as a writer, being a hall of famer and all, he's slipping. He's getting to the point where he's running with anything he can get his hands on just to have a 'scoop'....that's not good for himself or the fans.

My thoughts exactly!

kaldaniels · 12-08-2008, 11:40 PM

Can we give him some slack for the Oester report...that deal was in place.

He blew the Krivsky report.

Frankly I think the jury may still be out on the Dye trade.

Am I missing any other blunders (major) that he made?

Matt700wlw · 12-08-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo

My thoughts exactly!

I hope that's wrong, too...

Wheelhouse · 12-09-2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kaldaniels

Can we give him some slack for the Oester report...that deal was in place.

He blew the Krivsky report.

Frankly I think the jury may still be out on the Dye trade.

Am I missing any other blunders (major) that he made?

He blew the Dan O'Brien hiring--saying Krivsky had been hired.

He repeatedly called the Griffey to Reds deal dead.

He repeatedly said there was no way Griffey would accept being traded from the Reds, and that we ignorant readers should "get off it." This because he thought Griffey had a no-trade clause, which he didn't. He was a 10-5 player, which for some reason, Hal can't distinguish between.

And there have been others which I can't recall at the moment...

Krusty · 12-09-2008, 01:25 AM

Then explain to me how he got in the writers' portion of the Hall of Fame?

cincrazy · 12-09-2008, 07:16 AM

I'm really tired of people running Hal McCoy's name through the mud. He's been an incredible writer for over three decades, and he's one of the best human beings you'll ever meet. I was a journalism student at OSU, and he constantly took the time to reply to my emails, give me tips, and invited me up to the press box at GABP. He's a 100% class act. He's made a few mistakes, yes. So has Marty. So did Joe. So has Vin Scully. I'm not saying he should never be criticized, but I am saying some of the heat he catches around here is entirely unfair.

Jpup · 12-09-2008, 07:17 AM

He tries to be first to report things that are not true?

Krusty · 12-09-2008, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jpup

He tries to be first to report things that are not true?

I guess we can put Peter Gammons and Ken Rosenthal in the same category? Reporters go by their sources. If someone inside the White Sox organization said this about a Bailey for Dye deal while being off the record, sure the White Sox are going to deny it to the media if talks are still ungoing. You don't think the Reds aren't doing the same thing with their trade discussions? It is part of the game.

Like I said, come the end of the week I think we'll all have to owe Hal McCoy a big apology.

Ltlabner · 12-09-2008, 07:33 AM

Slow news day at Redszone?

Krusty · 12-09-2008, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ltlabner

Slow news day at Redszone?

7:30 am on the East Coast. Another long day ahead. With the Winter Meetings on, there is no such thing as sleep.

BoydsOfSummer · 12-09-2008, 08:21 AM

Maybe, since he doesn't see well anymore, he thinks it's one of his reliable sources when actually it's an Evil SERP operative. Just a theory.

15fan · 12-09-2008, 09:21 AM

I really liked it during the Fastball.com days when he told us that Delino DeShields was going to be the 2nd baseman for the Reds.

Good writers don't spend their careers at the Dayton Daily News.

Chip R · 12-09-2008, 09:25 AM

I liked it when he said that Eduardo Perez had his big toe cut off instead of his big toenail.

REDREAD · 12-09-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wheelhouse

He repeatedly called the Griffey to Reds deal dead.

He was repeating what John Allen said.

Hal has gotten some things right. Also, he clearly called the Dye trade a rumor.

I don't get why people are piling on Hal. Would you rather have someone not report anything until the Reds issue a press release? Would you rather have not had any information about the possible Dye-Homer trade? Makes for a boring offseason. Hal is good at scooping up legitimate rumors in the offseason. I'm glad he is still reporting for the Reds, and I think when he retires, we are going to get a lot less information in the offseason.

View Poll Results: Hal McCoy and his 0-fers--why can't he get it right?
Some people don't like him and try to dupe him into looking like a fool.	8	17.02%
He's lazy.	4	8.51%
He's overzealous about getting a "scoop."	29	61.70%
His sources are old.	6	12.77%
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12-08-2008, 11:36 PM	#1
Wheelhouse Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: New York Posts: 2,849	Why is Hal McCoy always wrong? Seems like he never gets it right on major organizational moves and trades. __________________ "Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill

12-08-2008, 11:40 PM	#3
kaldaniels Viva la Rolen Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,315	Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong? Can we give him some slack for the Oester report...that deal was in place. He blew the Krivsky report. Frankly I think the jury may still be out on the Dye trade. Am I missing any other blunders (major) that he made?

12-09-2008, 01:25 AM	#6
Krusty Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 12,311	Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong? Then explain to me how he got in the writers' portion of the Hall of Fame? __________________ If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.

12-09-2008, 07:16 AM	#7
cincrazy Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Vienna, OH Posts: 4,122	Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong? I'm really tired of people running Hal McCoy's name through the mud. He's been an incredible writer for over three decades, and he's one of the best human beings you'll ever meet. I was a journalism student at OSU, and he constantly took the time to reply to my emails, give me tips, and invited me up to the press box at GABP. He's a 100% class act. He's made a few mistakes, yes. So has Marty. So did Joe. So has Vin Scully. I'm not saying he should never be criticized, but I am saying some of the heat he catches around here is entirely unfair.

12-09-2008, 07:17 AM	#8
Jpup Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern KY Posts: 6,967	Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong? He tries to be first to report things that are not true? __________________ "My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton

12-09-2008, 07:33 AM	#10
Ltlabner 2009: Fail Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 7,441	Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong? Slow news day at Redszone? __________________ a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude. I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

12-09-2008, 08:21 AM	#12
BoydsOfSummer So Long Uncle Joe Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hamilton,Ohio Posts: 3,849	Re: Why is Hal McCoy always wrong? Maybe, since he doesn't see well anymore, he thinks it's one of his reliable sources when actually it's an Evil SERP operative. Just a theory. __________________ 0 Value Over Replacement Poster "Sit over here next to Johnathan (Bench)...sit right here, he's smart."--Sparky Anderson

12-09-2008, 09:21 AM	#13
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