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reds44 · 12-09-2008, 04:37 PM

I wonder how many players that leaves from the opening day roster in 2007?

The only position players left are Edwin, Phillips, and Gonzalez.

RedEye · 12-09-2008, 04:38 PM

I wonder how many of his passed balls were uncorked by Daniel Cabrera?

RedEye · 12-09-2008, 04:39 PM

Time to change the thread title to more than a "trade idea"?

Ltlabner · 12-09-2008, 04:40 PM

I'm in a hotel...what were the details of the deal?

*BaseClogger* · 12-09-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by reds44

I think the Reds have to bring back Hairston now. Hopefully for a one year deal.

There are plenty of players like Jerry Hairston that will be looking for a role in a few months. Remember how we got Jerry in the first place? I'd rather go with a young guy with a better glove and offensive upside over the known commodity that Jerry Hairston is...

RedEye · 12-09-2008, 04:43 PM

Quote:

I'm in a hotel...what were the details of the deal?

Hernandez + cash for Freel + 2 minor leaguers

Nothing official yet, but said to be on the commissioner's desk...

*BaseClogger* · 12-09-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ltlabner

I'm in a hotel...what were the details of the deal?

Freel ($4M in 2009) + 2 prospects for Ramon Hernandez ($8M in 2009 and a team option for 2010 at $8.5M and a $1M buyout). The Orioles will throw in some cash...

HeatherC1212 · 12-09-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RedEye

I wonder how many of his passed balls were uncorked by Daniel Cabrera?

More than a few if I remember correctly but several pitchers who have started for the O's in the last two or so years aren't know for their stellar control.

Johnny Footstool · 12-09-2008, 04:45 PM

I expect the minor leaguers to be fairly inconsequential, so this looks like a good deal. Hernandez should still be in his prime for the next couple of years, and he has put up some excellent OPS numbers in the past.

Ltlabner · 12-09-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RedEye

Hernandez + cash for Freel + 2 minor leaguers

Nothing official yet, but said to be on the commissioner's desk...

I misread an earlier post. I thought The Jock was doing a presser at 4:15. Based on that, and some of the recient posts I thought the details of the cash/players were announced.

My bad.

(Thanks for the help, however).

Falls City Beer · 12-09-2008, 04:46 PM

Definitely an unsexy move, but it does mean the catcher position will probably be at least average both offensively and defensively. So it's certainly not a horrible move or anything.

reds44 · 12-09-2008, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *BaseClogger*

There are plenty of players like Jerry Hairston that will be looking for a role in a few months. Remember how we got Jerry in the first place? I'd rather go with a young guy with a better glove and offensive upside over the known commodity that Jerry Hairston is...

Like who? It's not like I want Hairston to be a starter or anything, just a utility player who platoons with Dickerson.

RedEye · 12-09-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Definitely an unsexy move, but it does mean the catcher position will probably be at least average both offensively and defensively. So it's certainly not a horrible move or anything.

It's actually nice to see WJ trade Freel for something of value to the team. You're right, it's not sexy, but Hernandez definitely fills a team need, and he isn't Javy-bad or Bako-bad.

corkedbat · 12-09-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Definitely an unsexy move, but it does mean the catcher position will probably be at least average both offensively and defensively. So it's certainly not a horrible move or anything.

I'm OK with it. At least it gives Walt a year to look for a younger, more longterm solution.

redsfan30 · 12-09-2008, 04:52 PM

This improves the catcher position. Go trade for Jermaine Dye, bring in one more starting pitcher and let's go to work!

12-09-2008, 04:37 PM	#121
reds44 #TheReturn Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 23,655	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? I wonder how many players that leaves from the opening day roster in 2007? The only position players left are Edwin, Phillips, and Gonzalez.

12-09-2008, 04:38 PM	#122
RedEye Ojo Rojo Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 4,391	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? I wonder how many of his passed balls were uncorked by Daniel Cabrera? __________________ "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear." - Norm (George Wendt), Cheers

12-09-2008, 04:39 PM	#123
RedEye Ojo Rojo Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 4,391	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? Time to change the thread title to more than a "trade idea"? __________________ "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear." - Norm (George Wendt), Cheers

12-09-2008, 04:40 PM	#124
Ltlabner 2009: Fail Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 7,441	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? I'm in a hotel...what were the details of the deal? __________________ a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude. I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

12-09-2008, 04:45 PM	#129
Johnny Footstool Churlish Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 13,662	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? I expect the minor leaguers to be fairly inconsequential, so this looks like a good deal. Hernandez should still be in his prime for the next couple of years, and he has put up some excellent OPS numbers in the past. __________________ "I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful

12-09-2008, 04:46 PM	#131
Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? Definitely an unsexy move, but it does mean the catcher position will probably be at least average both offensively and defensively. So it's certainly not a horrible move or anything.

12-09-2008, 04:52 PM	#135
redsfan30 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,545	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? This improves the catcher position. Go trade for Jermaine Dye, bring in one more starting pitcher and let's go to work! __________________ "Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill

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