Freel traded for Ramon Hernandez - Page 11 - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Chip R · 12-09-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HeatherC1212

So what are you going to do until Christmas?! Hal's probably so fearful of reporting anything now that he'll wait that long to run the story, LOL

Considering how many times he's been wrong, I doubt that's going to happen.

*BaseClogger* · 12-09-2008, 05:06 PM

I'm thinking .270/.340/.450 from Hernandez with above-average defense is within reach...

icehole3 · 12-09-2008, 05:07 PM

I think WJ needs to come on back to Cincy, no more trading

Benihana · 12-09-2008, 05:13 PM

I'm fine with this deal. Turner and Waring had no future with the big club in Cincy. Freel was dead weight on the roster. I'm not sure if I understand the Livan Hernandez signing though.

Just for reference, where did people hear about Turner and Waring being the prospects in the deal?

NJReds · 12-09-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Benihana

I'm fine with this deal. Turner and Waring had no future with the big club in Cincy. Freel was dead weight on the roster. I'm not sure if I understand the Livan Hernandez signing though.

I don't think the Reds signed Livan. I think the blogger got his Hernandezes mixed up.

Raisor · 12-09-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by icehole3

I think WJ needs to come on back to Cincy, no more trading

Hernandez not scrappy enough?

SMcGavin · 12-09-2008, 05:18 PM

If Turner and Waring are the two prospects, great trade by Jocketty. I expect Hernandez to OPS .750+ next year as a Red. Hanigan settles into the reserve role, where I like him a lot. The Reds had three or four giant ???s coming into the offseason, Walt just solved one of those questions by only giving up two OK prospects and an overpaid reserve outfielder.

icehole3 · 12-09-2008, 05:18 PM

Turner was one of my favorites

Kc61 · 12-09-2008, 05:26 PM

Turner will be a major league player. Too bad he had to go in this deal. But, you have to give up something to get something, as they say.

Will M · 12-09-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SMcGavin

If Turner and Waring are the two prospects, great trade by Jocketty. I expect Hernandez to OPS .750+ next year as a Red. Hanigan settles into the reserve role, where I like him a lot. The Reds had three or four giant ???s coming into the offseason, Walt just solved one of those questions by only giving up two OK prospects and an overpaid reserve outfielder.

pretty amazing. we get rid of Freel and improve the team at the same time. and we didn't really lose any key prospects.

Mario-Rijo · 12-09-2008, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehole3

Turner was one of my favorites

I liked Turner as well and Valaika may miss him but he's a marginal starting 2B at best and he's far better a prospect than Waring.

flyer85 · 12-09-2008, 05:31 PM

I'm not that impressed with Ramon but at least the Reds aren't sending anything they are likely to miss. It will be interesting to see how much $$ come back because Ramon is a bit pricey considering his production(or lack thereof).

Will M · 12-09-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo

I liked Turner as well and Valaika may miss him but he's a marginal starting 2B at best and he's far better a prospect than Waring.

our own Redszone poll of prospects had Turner at #23 & Waring not ranked yet.

corkedbat · 12-09-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kc61

Turner will be a major league player. Too bad he had to go in this deal. But, you have to give up something to get something, as they say.

Yeah, I liked Turner too, but Valaika prolly ends up @ 2B & Bucholz may well be major league-ready by the time Turner is. If it's Freel/Turner/Waring I like the deal.

hebroncougar · 12-09-2008, 05:33 PM

Wow.........if this deal does go down, as heavily rumored, I'm a happy camper.

12-09-2008, 05:06 PM	#152
BaseClogger WOOOOO!!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 6,077	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? I'm thinking .270/.340/.450 from Hernandez with above-average defense is within reach... __________________ "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

12-09-2008, 05:07 PM	#153
icehole3 Member Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 3,027	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? I think WJ needs to come on back to Cincy, no more trading

12-09-2008, 05:13 PM	#154
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,417	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? I'm fine with this deal. Turner and Waring had no future with the big club in Cincy. Freel was dead weight on the roster. I'm not sure if I understand the Livan Hernandez signing though. Just for reference, where did people hear about Turner and Waring being the prospects in the deal? __________________ Go BLUE!!! Last edited by Benihana; 12-09-2008 at 05:15 PM.

12-09-2008, 05:18 PM	#157
SMcGavin Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,483	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? If Turner and Waring are the two prospects, great trade by Jocketty. I expect Hernandez to OPS .750+ next year as a Red. Hanigan settles into the reserve role, where I like him a lot. The Reds had three or four giant ???s coming into the offseason, Walt just solved one of those questions by only giving up two OK prospects and an overpaid reserve outfielder.

12-09-2008, 05:18 PM	#158
icehole3 Member Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 3,027	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? Turner was one of my favorites

12-09-2008, 05:26 PM	#159
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,828	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? Turner will be a major league player. Too bad he had to go in this deal. But, you have to give up something to get something, as they say.

12-09-2008, 05:31 PM	#162
flyer85 He has the Evil Eye! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south of the border Posts: 23,858	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? I'm not that impressed with Ramon but at least the Reds aren't sending anything they are likely to miss. It will be interesting to see how much $$ come back because Ramon is a bit pricey considering his production(or lack thereof). __________________ What are you, people? On dope? - Mr Hand

12-09-2008, 05:33 PM	#165
hebroncougar Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,017	Re: Trade Idea- Freel for Ramon Hernandez? Wow.........if this deal does go down, as heavily rumored, I'm a happy camper.

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