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OnBaseMachine · 02-17-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chip R

When's the last time the Reds went to arbitration with someone? It's been a while.

Chris Reitsma in 2004. And then he was traded towards the end of Spring Training.

bucksfan2 · 02-17-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine

I'm glad they were able to work out a deal. I think this is going to be a big year for Edwin.

Is this the off season prior to 2008?

When it comes to Edwin it seems like we Reds fans are always hoping he puts it together. His footwork is there but he can't make the consistent throws. He had some very good months. He is ready to post an OPS+ of ... The key with Edwin is whether the hope becomes the reality.

The two year deal isn't bad and I wouldn't be surprised if the Reds signed him long term during this season.

Falls City Beer · 02-17-2009, 11:27 AM

He's never going to be anything but respectable on defense, more than likely pretty poor.

Still, pretty good deal for his bat.

Cyclone792 · 02-17-2009, 11:29 AM

Encarnacion should have a clause placed in his contract that stipulates he gets his original uniform number back ... the number that was swiped from him last year.

As it stands, if it's 2 for 5 then that'll work.

Crosley68 · 02-17-2009, 11:39 AM

If the Reds offered 2.55 this year, there is no way EE accepted $5 for 2 years....that doesnt make any "cents"

Always Red · 02-17-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

I'm not a big fan of two-year deals for young players. Either buy out some of his free-agent years, or just go to arbitration with him.

EE's ego is delicate enough without being subjected to the trashing that occurs during an arb hearing.

This takes some pressure off EE, hopefully will allow him to relax and just play ball, and also seems to be a fair deal, at least, for the Reds.

This team really needs for Eddie to step up and play well at 3B. IMO, he'd make a great #4 hitter b/w Bruce and Votto.

JaxRed · 02-17-2009, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crosley68

If the Reds offered 2.55 this year, there is no way EE accepted $5 for 2 years....that doesnt make any "cents"

Sure it does. To get a higher guarantee (5 mill) he takes less per year. Now he doesn't have to worry about injuries or poor performance.

Clubs should do this every time: Give me an incentive to not go Year to Year.

I(heart)Freel · 02-17-2009, 12:08 PM

Hmmm...

10:24am: Troy Renck of the Denver Post has details:

Encarnacion will receive $2MM this season and $4.75MM in 2010 with an $850K signing bonus payable between March 29 and November 2009. Also will get $25K for 600 plate appearances.

Chip R · 02-17-2009, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I(heart)Freel

Hmmm...

10:24am: Troy Renck of the Denver Post has details:

Encarnacion will receive $2MM this season and $4.75MM in 2010 with an $850K signing bonus payable between March 29 and November 2009. Also will get $25K for 600 plate appearances.

Right again, Hal.

OnBaseMachine · 02-17-2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I(heart)Freel

Hmmm...

10:24am: Troy Renck of the Denver Post has details:

Encarnacion will receive $2MM this season and $4.75MM in 2010 with an $850K signing bonus payable between March 29 and November 2009. Also will get $25K for 600 plate appearances.

That's still a solid deal for both sides, IMO.

jesusfan · 02-17-2009, 12:28 PM

I'll do 2 years for 7 million any day of the week for production like Edwin...

OnBaseMachine · 02-17-2009, 12:30 PM

Things I'm told
The Reds avoided arbitration and reached agreement on a two year deal with Edwin Encarnacion this morning.
Edwin made $450,000 in 2008. He had requested 3.7 mill in arbitration. The Reds had offered 2.55 mill.
Total deal: $7,600,506
2009: $2,000,000
2010: $4,750,000
Signing bonus - $850,000, payable between March 2009 and November 2009.
Plus: $25,000 for 600 plate appearances
Plus: $25,000 for All Star; $50,000 for LCS/MVP;
$100,000 for WS/MVP; $50,000 for Gold Glove; $50,000 for Silver Slugger.
Edwin will donate 1% of base salaries and signing bonus to Reds Community Fund.

http://www.1530homer.com/pages/lancesBlog.html

princeton · 02-17-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine

$100,000 for WS/MVP

I'm pulling for that incentive.

which team will pay it, though?

JaxRed · 02-17-2009, 12:33 PM

If the 850K is in addition to the rest of it, the Reds shouldn't have gone for this deal.

WMR · 02-17-2009, 12:43 PM

Wow Hal ... What a joke.

02-17-2009, 11:27 AM	#18
Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	Re: Reds, Encarnacion Work Out Deal He's never going to be anything but respectable on defense, more than likely pretty poor. Still, pretty good deal for his bat.

02-17-2009, 11:29 AM	#19
Cyclone792 Playoffs Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 6,233	Re: Reds, Encarnacion Work Out Deal Encarnacion should have a clause placed in his contract that stipulates he gets his original uniform number back ... the number that was swiped from him last year. As it stands, if it's 2 for 5 then that'll work. __________________ *Barry Larkin - HOF, 2012* *Put an end to the Lost Decade.*

02-17-2009, 11:39 AM	#20
Crosley68 Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: West Virginia Posts: 939	Re: Reds, Encarnacion Work Out Deal If the Reds offered 2.55 this year, there is no way EE accepted $5 for 2 years....that doesnt make any "cents" __________________ Let's play two!!!

02-17-2009, 12:08 PM	#23
I(heart)Freel Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Side (No Diggity) Posts: 1,010	Re: Reds, Encarnacion Work Out Deal Hmmm... 10:24am: Troy Renck of the Denver Post has details: Encarnacion will receive $2MM this season and $4.75MM in 2010 with an $850K signing bonus payable between March 29 and November 2009. Also will get $25K for 600 plate appearances. __________________ I have a love-hate relationship with Albert Pujols. Mostly hate.

02-17-2009, 12:28 PM	#26
jesusfan Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Grayson, Ky Posts: 6,130	Re: Reds, Encarnacion Work Out Deal I'll do 2 years for 7 million any day of the week for production like Edwin... __________________ "There is a great man who makes every man feel small. But the real great man is the man who makes every man feel great." G.K Charleston

02-17-2009, 12:30 PM	#27
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,662	Re: Reds, Encarnacion Work Out Deal Things I'm told The Reds avoided arbitration and reached agreement on a two year deal with Edwin Encarnacion this morning. Edwin made $450,000 in 2008. He had requested 3.7 mill in arbitration. The Reds had offered 2.55 mill. Total deal: $7,600,506 2009: $2,000,000 2010: $4,750,000 Signing bonus - $850,000, payable between March 2009 and November 2009. Plus: $25,000 for 600 plate appearances Plus: $25,000 for All Star; $50,000 for LCS/MVP; $100,000 for WS/MVP; $50,000 for Gold Glove; $50,000 for Silver Slugger. Edwin will donate 1% of base salaries and signing bonus to Reds Community Fund. http://www.1530homer.com/pages/lancesBlog.html __________________ I miss Adam Dunn.

02-17-2009, 12:33 PM	#29
JaxRed Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 9,228	Re: Reds, Encarnacion Work Out Deal If the 850K is in addition to the rest of it, the Reds shouldn't have gone for this deal.

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