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Topcat · 03-26-2009, 02:09 AM

I like many wonder if this is the time to sell High on guys like Arroyo and Harang. In Krusty spirit I am pitching an idea. Adam Jones (not Pacman) and Luke Scott and Kam Mickolio In Exchange for Bronson Arroyo and Chris Dickerson. Baltimore is dieing for a proven ace and this satisfy' s that need in a big way and to me comes across as a realistic deal.

camisadelgolf · 03-26-2009, 02:26 AM

The Orioles realize that they are way behind the pack at the moment, so their focus is youth, and that trade makes them older.

Stephenk29 · 03-26-2009, 04:30 AM

Jones went to Baltimore in the Bedard deal. They seem to think very highly of him, even saying that he will hit 2nd in the order this year. I think it would be hard for us to get all three of those guys, especially with Jones included. Can you call Arroyo a proven ace either? Not a bad trade idea, but I don't see the Os going for it.

Krusty · 03-26-2009, 05:02 AM

Anybody make a call to the Nationals about the availability of Josh Willingham? With Dunn in LF, Nick Johnson at lst, Lasting Milledge in CF and either Austin Kearns or Elijah Dukes in RF, Willingham could be the odd man out. He would be nice in a platoon with Chris Dickerson in LF. And if Willy Taveras struggles, they could shift Dickerson to CF and Willingham to LF. Nothing against Johnny Gomes, who has had a good spring, but the track record isn't that great. I rather see the Reds acquire another veteran option.

Who to trade? How about Bill Bray back to Washington for Willingham? Reds could go with Danny Herrera as the second lefty in the pen with Pedro Viola in Louisville waiting in the wings.

jojo · 03-26-2009, 07:15 AM

I don't think the O's would entertain that discussion.

*BaseClogger* · 03-26-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Krusty

Anybody make a call to the Nationals about the availability of Josh Willingham? With Dunn in LF, Nick Johnson at lst, Lasting Milledge in CF and either Austin Kearns or Elijah Dukes in RF, Willingham could be the odd man out. He would be nice in a platoon with Chris Dickerson in LF. And if Willy Taveras struggles, they could shift Dickerson to CF and Willingham to LF. Nothing against Johnny Gomes, who has had a good spring, but the track record isn't that great. I rather see the Reds acquire another veteran option.

Who to trade? How about Bill Bray back to Washington for Willingham? Reds could go with Danny Herrera as the second lefty in the pen with Pedro Viola in Louisville waiting in the wings.

I would love to have Josh Willingham and I don't think the asking price would be too much talent-wise, but it all depends on whether or not Jocketty is allowed to add his $2.95M salary...

Highlifeman21 · 03-26-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by *BaseClogger*

I would love to have Josh Willingham and I don't think the asking price would be too much talent-wise, but it all depends on whether or not Jocketty is allowed to add his $2.95M salary...

Jocketty was allowed to add $2 Mil this year and $4Mil for next year for a CF we didn't need, so it would completely defy logic to add $2.95 Mil for a LF we actually do need.

.... although I love me some Gomes, and I think he's gonna be great dumpster diving for Krivsky... er, I mean Jocketty.

*BaseClogger* · 03-26-2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Highlifeman21

Jocketty was allowed to add $2 Mil this year and $4Mil for next year for a CF we didn't need, so it would completely defy logic to add $2.95 Mil for a LF we actually do need.

.... although I love me some Gomes, and I think he's gonna be great dumpster diving for Krivsky... er, I mean Jocketty.

Yeah, well that is what happens when the GM jumps the gun on a guy nobody else wanted (except maybe for the deranged White Sox). It kinda reminds me of the $3M we gave to CPatt last year when nobody else wanted him. Oh Dusty...

RedEye · 03-27-2009, 11:26 AM

That's the kind of deal the O's used to make. Not anymore. I think they want to keep their Markakis-Jones-Pie OF together for awhile. Now, perhaps if you threw in Harang instead of Arroyo they'd be willing to talk... but unlikely.

PuffyPig · 03-27-2009, 04:52 PM

Trading Harang now would not be selling high, it would be selling low.

RedEye · 03-27-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Trading Harang now would not be selling high, it would be selling low.

I agree. I'm just responding to the original post, which suggested that the Reds deal Arroyo and Dickerson for Jones and others. To even have a prayer of bending McPhail's ear, the Reds would have to put Aaron in that deal, no question. I'm not saying they should do that--but that's what it would take.

Hollcat · 03-29-2009, 12:33 PM

Arroyo a proven ace? I can't imagine any team coming after Arroyo thinking that he is a proven ace, especially a team that has to play in the AL East.

Emin3mShady07 · 03-29-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by *BaseClogger*

Yeah, well that is what happens when the GM jumps the gun on a guy nobody else wanted (except maybe for the deranged White Sox). It kinda reminds me of the $3M we gave to CPatt last year when nobody else wanted him. Oh Dusty...

Hey, whoa didn't the white sox win a world series. Kenny Williams KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING.

jk

Emin3mShady07 · 03-29-2009, 03:35 PM

Wilingham would be a great fit for the reds, especially considering Washington didn't give up much to get him. I'm still a big fan of Nick Swisher and he might come cheap because the Yankees look like they are just going to let him rot on the bench which is awful.

One of those two would really be a big boost to the reds.

03-26-2009, 02:09 AM	#1
Topcat Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,928	a Good old Krusty inspirational trade idea I like many wonder if this is the time to sell High on guys like Arroyo and Harang. In Krusty spirit I am pitching an idea. Adam Jones (not Pacman) and Luke Scott and Kam Mickolio In Exchange for Bronson Arroyo and Chris Dickerson. Baltimore is dieing for a proven ace and this satisfy' s that need in a big way and to me comes across as a realistic deal. __________________ 2006 Redzone mock Draftee's- 1(st) Daniel Bard(redsox), 1(st sup)( Jordan Walden (Angels), 2(nd) rd.- Zach Britton(Orioles), 3(rd) Blair Erickson(Cardinals), 3(rd) Tim Norton( Yankees),(cuz its a Tim Hortons thing Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever.

03-26-2009, 02:26 AM	#2
camisadelgolf Vampire Weekend @Bernie's Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 11,311	Re: a Good old Krusty inspirational trade idea The Orioles realize that they are way behind the pack at the moment, so their focus is youth, and that trade makes them older.

03-26-2009, 04:30 AM	#3
Stephenk29 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 709	Re: a Good old Krusty inspirational trade idea Jones went to Baltimore in the Bedard deal. They seem to think very highly of him, even saying that he will hit 2nd in the order this year. I think it would be hard for us to get all three of those guys, especially with Jones included. Can you call Arroyo a proven ace either? Not a bad trade idea, but I don't see the Os going for it. __________________ "The Hall of Fame is there to keep alive the memory of people. You don't need to do that with people like Buck [O'Niel] and Joe [Nuxhall]. Nobody's forgetting those guys." - Joe Posnanski

03-26-2009, 05:02 AM	#4
Krusty Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 12,311	Re: a Good old Krusty inspirational trade idea Anybody make a call to the Nationals about the availability of Josh Willingham? With Dunn in LF, Nick Johnson at lst, Lasting Milledge in CF and either Austin Kearns or Elijah Dukes in RF, Willingham could be the odd man out. He would be nice in a platoon with Chris Dickerson in LF. And if Willy Taveras struggles, they could shift Dickerson to CF and Willingham to LF. Nothing against Johnny Gomes, who has had a good spring, but the track record isn't that great. I rather see the Reds acquire another veteran option. Who to trade? How about Bill Bray back to Washington for Willingham? Reds could go with Danny Herrera as the second lefty in the pen with Pedro Viola in Louisville waiting in the wings. __________________ If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.

03-26-2009, 07:15 AM	#5
jojo Five Tool Fool Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,569	Re: a Good old Krusty inspirational trade idea I don't think the O's would entertain that discussion. __________________ "This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

03-27-2009, 11:26 AM	#9
RedEye Ojo Rojo Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Moving to Atlanta in July Posts: 4,430	Re: a Good old Krusty inspirational trade idea That's the kind of deal the O's used to make. Not anymore. I think they want to keep their Markakis-Jones-Pie OF together for awhile. Now, perhaps if you threw in Harang instead of Arroyo they'd be willing to talk... but unlikely. __________________ "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear." - Norm (George Wendt), Cheers

03-27-2009, 04:52 PM	#10
PuffyPig Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,727	Re: a Good old Krusty inspirational trade idea Trading Harang now would not be selling high, it would be selling low.

03-29-2009, 12:33 PM	#12
Hollcat Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: So. Cen. KY Posts: 1,109	Re: a Good old Krusty inspirational trade idea Arroyo a proven ace? I can't imagine any team coming after Arroyo thinking that he is a proven ace, especially a team that has to play in the AL East.

03-29-2009, 03:35 PM	#14
Emin3mShady07 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lake Orion, MI Posts: 454	Re: a Good old Krusty inspirational trade idea Wilingham would be a great fit for the reds, especially considering Washington didn't give up much to get him. I'm still a big fan of Nick Swisher and he might come cheap because the Yankees look like they are just going to let him rot on the bench which is awful. One of those two would really be a big boost to the reds. __________________ Baseball is not necessarily an obsessive-compulsive disorder, like washing your hands 100 times a day, but it's beginning to seem that way. We're reaching the point where you can be a truly dedicated, state-of-the-art fan or you can have a life. Take your pick. ~Thomas Boswell Having a life is overrated.

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