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Old 06-17-2009, 12:01 AM   #1
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Louisville Pitching

The good ones:

Homer Bailey, since returning from his start for Cincy:

29.1 IP - 7 BB - 24 K - 0.92 ERA

Justin Lehr, since rejoining the Bats: (last start was 9 IP - 2 ER)

27 IP - 2 BB - 12 K - 2.67 ERA

Robert Manuel, last 10 games:

15.2 IP - 1 BB - 10 K - 0.00 ERA

Pedro Viola, last 10 games:

11.1 IP - 6 BB - 14 K - 0.79 ERA

Josh Roenicke, last 10 games:

9.2 IP - 1 BB - 8 K - 0.00 ERA - 8 Saves

Federico Baez, last 5 games:

7.2 IP - 2 BB - 2 K - 1.17 ERA

Ramon Ramirez, last 3 games (maybe he's getting there):

17 IP - 7 BB - 8 K - 2.12 ERA


But then there are the ones that aren't there yet:

Sam LeCure, last 10 games:

56.1 IP - 18 BB - 48 K - 5.59 ERA

Ben Jukich - Last 10 games:

21.2 IP - 7 BB - 17 K - 6.65 ERA


And the journeymen:

Adam Pettyjohn - last 10 games:

26 IP - 10 BB - 12 K - 5.19 ERA

Jeff Kennard - last 10 games:

13.2 IP - 4 BB - 11 K - 5.27 ERA
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:12 AM   #2
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Re: Louisville Pitching

Some very nice numbers there.
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:17 AM   #3
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Re: Louisville Pitching

Manuel, Roenicke, and Viola are all future major league relievers, IMO.

Manuel reminds me of a David Weathers type. Average fastball velocity with good movement and a solid slider.

Roenicke has a big arm and his control has improved a lot this season. He's ready for the majors now, IMO.

Viola has the stuff to be a dominant lefty out of the pen. I've seen him pitch a couple times on TV during ST and I was wowed by his stuff. His control will determine whether he's a dominant bullpen arm or merely a solid one.
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:28 AM   #4
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Manuel, Roenicke, and Viola are all future major league relievers, IMO.

Manuel reminds me of a David Weathers type. Average fastball velocity with good movement and a solid slider.

Roenicke has a big arm and his control has improved a lot this season. He's ready for the majors now, IMO.

Viola has the stuff to be a dominant lefty out of the pen. I've seen him pitch a couple times on TV during ST and I was wowed by his stuff. His control will determine whether he's a dominant bullpen arm or merely a solid one.
And Homer slides into the rotation, that is a third of our big league pitchers promoted in one season (if you count Bailey). With Stubbs and possibly others inserted into the lineup and we will have a huge infusion of youth next season.
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Old 06-17-2009, 11:06 AM   #5
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With the Tigers, Yankees, Angels, and Rangers all having major bullpen issues, you gotta think they might be interested in at least one of our arms. Do any of these teams having any shortstop prospects that could be targeted if we were to ship them one of our relievers?
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Old 06-17-2009, 11:11 AM   #6
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Manuel, Roenicke, and Viola are all future major league relievers, IMO.

Manuel reminds me of a David Weathers type. Average fastball velocity with good movement and a solid slider.

Roenicke has a big arm and his control has improved a lot this season. He's ready for the majors now, IMO.

Viola has the stuff to be a dominant lefty out of the pen. I've seen him pitch a couple times on TV during ST and I was wowed by his stuff. His control will determine whether he's a dominant bullpen arm or merely a solid one.
Yes, the AAA bullpen is a position of great strength in this organization, with Fisher already called up. Lutz at AA could also joing them soon when healthy, a ground ball guy.

With Bailey, Stewart, Wood and some others (Smith, maybe Lecure) starting pitching is again becoming a position of strength although slightly behind these bullpenners in development.

And with Stubbs at AAA and the mighty Carolina group of Frazier, Heisey, Alonso, Francisco, and perhaps Henry, the next round of bats is on its way as well.

That's about 15 guys at the high levels with reasonable to good chances of making the majors in the next few years. And I'm sure I'm leaving some out. Like Valaika who is injured and Ramirez who has shown flashes of excellence.

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Old 06-17-2009, 02:58 PM   #7
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The good ones:

Homer Bailey, since returning from his start for Cincy:

37.1 IP - 8 BB - 31 K - 0.72 ERA

Justin Lehr, since rejoining the Bats: (last start was 9 IP - 2 ER)

27 IP - 2 BB - 12 K - 2.67 ERA

Robert Manuel, last 10 games:

15.2 IP - 1 BB - 10 K - 0.00 ERA

Pedro Viola, last 10 games:

11.1 IP - 6 BB - 14 K - 0.79 ERA

Josh Roenicke, last 10 games:

9.2 IP - 1 BB - 8 K - 0.00 ERA - 8 Saves

Federico Baez, last 5 games:

7.2 IP - 2 BB - 2 K - 1.17 ERA

Ramon Ramirez, last 3 games (maybe he's getting there):

17 IP - 7 BB - 8 K - 2.12 ERA


But then there are the ones that aren't there yet:

Sam LeCure, last 10 games:

56.1 IP - 18 BB - 48 K - 5.59 ERA

Ben Jukich - Last 10 games:

21.2 IP - 7 BB - 17 K - 6.65 ERA


And the journeymen:

Adam Pettyjohn - last 10 games:

26 IP - 10 BB - 12 K - 5.19 ERA

Jeff Kennard - last 10 games:

13.2 IP - 4 BB - 11 K - 5.27 ERA
Bailey's numbers updated

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Old 06-17-2009, 03:07 PM   #8
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Re: Louisville Pitching

Don't forget Daryl Thompson although probably as a reliever if he can ever get away from the injury bug.
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Old 06-26-2009, 10:46 AM   #9
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LeCure is becoming much better.

For the month of June (5 starts):

30.2 IP - 26 H - 9 ER - 10 BB - 27 K - 2.64 ERA and 1.17 WHIP

He hasn't allowed a run in his last two starts and has pitched 13.2 scoreless inning in a row.
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Old 06-26-2009, 11:23 AM   #10
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LeCure is becoming much better.

For the month of June (5 starts):

30.2 IP - 26 H - 9 ER - 10 BB - 27 K - 2.64 ERA and 1.17 WHIP

He hasn't allowed a run in his last two starts and has pitched 13.2 scoreless inning in a row.

Lecure had two streaks like this (probably even better) at AA last year. I'm not surprised this has happened. Last year he had an injury which stopped his streak and then it took awhile for him to get back in form.

He's only pitched 30 innings in the five outings, would like to see them stretch him out to 7 innings per outing if possible. He's getting close and should get a shot with the Reds or in a trade.
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Old 06-26-2009, 11:28 AM   #11
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He's only pitched 30 innings in the five outings, would like to see them stretch him out to 7 innings per outing if possible. He's getting close and should get a shot with a trade.


I hope we could convince another team that LeCure has value. This time next year, he'll likely be out of the organization either way- hopefully its via trade where we actually get something nice back.
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Old 06-26-2009, 12:24 PM   #12
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He's only pitched 30 innings in the five outings, would like to see them stretch him out to 7 innings per outing if possible.
Yep, that is the one thing that stands out. From his last few starts:

6/25: 6 IP - Pitches-strikes: LeCure 102-60 - 59%

6/19: 6.2 IP - Pitches-strikes: LeCure 101-60 - 59%

6/14: 5 IP - Pitches-strikes: LeCure 99-59 - 60%

6/9: 8 IP - Pitches-strikes: LeCure 113-71 - 63%

6/4: 5 IP - Pitches-strikes: LeCure 104-62 - 60%

If he could improve his strike rate just a little and be more economical with his pitches, he may turn out to be a very good one.

For contrast, Lehr's last start:

6/24: 8 IP - Pitches-strikes: Lehr 79-54 - 68%
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:32 AM   #13
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These are Lehr's numbers at Louisville:



Notice his only rough game was against the team he had just left a couple of weeks earlier.
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:09 PM   #14
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Re: Louisville Pitching

Ben Jukich
Travis Wood
Sam LeCure
Camilo Vazquez
Tom Cochran

Greg Atencio
Federico Baez
Lee Tabor
Jeff Kennard
Pedro Viola
Enerio Del Rosario
Logan Ondrusek

Bolded players were with the club when I started this thread in mid-June.
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:52 PM   #15
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Well, scratch Viola. No word yet on who will replace him. Could be Sean Watson again.

For those that haven't heard, Viola was called up to the Reds.
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