Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios & third baseman Scott Rolen

[redsfan4445]

per mlb traderumors:

"Along with ace Roy Halladay, the Blue Jays are also taking offers for outfielder Alex Rios and third baseman Scott Rolen. They both carry hefty contracts, however, so deals could be tricky."


Can you see Rolen playing 3rd?? I wish he was 5 years younger sigh!!

[WVRed]

Rolen has been past his prime for awhile now.

[guttle11]

Originally Posted by WVRed

Rolen has been past his prime for awhile now.

He's still good, and probably still has another 2-3 quality years. I'd take him if the price was right.

[flyer85]

I bet they are

[Spitball]

Originally Posted by guttle11

He's still good, and probably still has another 2-3 quality years. I'd take him if the price was right.

He makes over $11 million per year, and you can bet they are wanting to dump a hefty part of that salary.

[Will M]

Now is the time for Bob C to put up or shut up (about the 'win now').

The Reds could conceivably get Halladay, Rios & Rolen in one fell swoop. How? Simply by taking the big contracts of Rolen (OPS+ 128) and Rios (having an off year, hoping a change of scenery will help).

Halladay by himself would cost a King's ransom. But by taking on the big contracts (especially Rios's contract) the cost goes down.

[Benihana]

Originally Posted by Will M

Now is the time for Bob C to put up or shut up (about the 'win now').

The Reds could conceivably get Halladay, Rios & Rolen in one fell swoop. How? Simply by taking the big contracts of Rolen (OPS+ 128) and Rios (having an off year, hoping a change of scenery will help).

Halladay by himself would cost a King's ransom. But by taking on the big contracts (especially Rios's contract) the cost goes down.

Don't hold your breath

[nate]

Just heard a rumor that I posted in tonight's GT. The Reds get Rolen, the Jays get EE and a minor leaguer.

Just a rumor, don't know how credible.

[CarolinaRedleg]

I'm intrigued. Rolen hitting between Votto and Bruce opens up more than a few possibilities.

[Patrick Bateman]

Originally Posted by Will M

Now is the time for Bob C to put up or shut up (about the 'win now').

The Reds could conceivably get Halladay, Rios & Rolen in one fell swoop. How? Simply by taking the big contracts of Rolen (OPS+ 128) and Rios (having an off year, hoping a change of scenery will help).

Halladay by himself would cost a King's ransom. But by taking on the big contracts (especially Rios's contract) the cost goes down.

This is just patently wrong. Scott Rolen is currently OPSing .867 with GG defense. He can be moved for plenty of value.

Rios is somewhat arguable, but I'd reckon that there would be more than a few teams willing to give up something of pretty high value for him. It wasn't that long ago that he was bandied about being dealt straight up for Lincecum or Cain, and he hasn't been that bad to fall that far to decreasing Halladay's value.

Halladay will only be moved if the Jays are going to get a real haul for him. Guys like that don't get traded to dump salary, they get moved to alter the franchise. If you want those 3 players, prepare to suffer through a really really bad farm system, and a bunch of slary dumps at the ML level to make it happen.

[wally post]

I love the idea of Rolen, but not at his age and lack of power, especially for EE + anything more. I realize EE drives me (and many of us, here) crazy - but is his value so low that this is the best he can bring in? If they were including a minors player back to us, instead of us adding on, then ... I might be able to handle this trade.
Yes we need help - but what if rolen's age catches up with him? We have this awful contract that is untradeable. So.. I vote "no" for EE unless THEY give us something back.

[Will M]

Originally Posted by Austin Kearns

This is just patently wrong. Scott Rolen is currently OPSing .867 with GG defense. He can be moved for plenty of value.

Rios is somewhat arguable, but I'd reckon that there would be more than a few teams willing to give up something of pretty high value for him. It wasn't that long ago that he was bandied about being dealt straight up for Lincecum or Cain, and he hasn't been that bad to fall that far to decreasing Halladay's value.

Halladay will only be moved if the Jays are going to get a real haul for him. Guys like that don't get traded to dump salary, they get moved to alter the franchise. If you want those 3 players, prepare to suffer through a really really bad farm system, and a bunch of slary dumps at the ML level to make it happen.

Rolen likely has value despite his contract. However he is owed $15M for 2010.

Rios is owed $69M from 2010 through 2014. He is OPS+ing ~92. With that massive contract he has negative trade value.

[redsfan4445]

Rolen has a 25 game hitting streak right now.. hmm so thats a rumour? Edwin and a minor leauger for Rolen? maybe they could expand it to get Rios..hmmmm

[Degenerate39]

Originally Posted by redsfan4445

Rolen has a 25 game hitting streak right now.. hmm so thats a rumour? Edwin and a minor leauger for Rolen? maybe they could expand it to get Rios..hmmmm

The Jays would have to pay most of Rios salary if the Reds went after him.

[Patrick Bateman]

Originally Posted by Will M

Rios is owed $69M from 2010 through 2014. He is OPS+ing ~92. With that massive contract he has negative trade value.

That would be true if he had no track record to fall back on, and if he were 33.

However, he does, and he isn't.