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Benihana · 07-27-2009, 09:34 AM

I can't fathom a scenario where Walt doesn't make at least one deal by Friday. So please, without the bitter sarcasm (hard as that may be), predict who will be the newest member of the organization by Friday.

I'll start with Mark Teahen. I see the Reds trading some mid-tier prospects for Teahen, the poor man's Mark DeRosa, and billing it as a trade for the present and the future. It will be nice in that it will give them some flexibility with Encarnacion and the outfield. However, assuming that's the only "big" move, I'll be underwhelmed.

What I would really like to see is the Reds trade Matt Maloney for any number of underperforming, high-potential outfielders. Wladimir Balentien, Elijah Dukes, and Delmon Young could all be had quite easily at the moment. I'd like to see WJ pull a Krivsky and take a chance on a high-upside bat. Unfortunately with the current GM, I think a Teahen-type trade is much more likely.

What's your prediction- who will be the newest Red by the end of the week?

Kc61 · 07-27-2009, 10:02 AM

I think there will be a lot of new Reds starting soon. I see Walt making wholesale changes on the roster, including moving up AAA and maybe even AA guys and trading a lot of folks. Including some of the good players. Not just deadline deals, but also off-season changes.

Just my feeling that Walt probably is now confident that he knows what he has, and that the next phase will be a lot of changeover to come up with a better mix.

I'll start with Scott Rolen, but I think that's the tip of the iceberg.

bucksfan2 · 07-27-2009, 10:35 AM

I thin Scott Rolen will be a Red for the 2010 season. I don't know if a deal gets down by the deadline or if one gets done in the off season. If a deal gets done in the off season I see a slobber knocker deal getting done.

I have a feeling that Weathers and Rhodes will be moved but I do not know their return.

edabbs44 · 07-27-2009, 10:45 AM

I'll go off the charts a bit and say Kevin Kouzmanoff.

HotCorner · 07-27-2009, 10:48 AM

Me >>> branch >>> Josh Willingham

Homer Bailey · 07-27-2009, 10:49 AM

It would be much much much smarter to wait until the offseason to make a deal for Rolen, when his trade value will be significantly lower.

Scrap Irony · 07-27-2009, 10:50 AM

Ian Snell and Jack Wilson.

Sigh.

(On another note, would Wilson be a Type A free agent?)

TRF · 07-27-2009, 10:53 AM

Chris Heisey, Drew Stubbs and Justin Lehr.

Oh you mean outside the organization? No one.

Homer Bailey · 07-27-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TRF

Chris Heisey, Drew Stubbs and Justin Lehr.

Oh you mean outside the organization? No one.

This. But I honestly think we're closer to seeing McDonald brought back up before one of the two youngsters. And I am totally serious.

nate · 07-27-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrap Irony

Ian Snell and Jack Wilson.

Sigh.

(On another note, would Wilson be a Type A free agent?)

Interesting thought. MLBTR had some talk the other day about the Elias rankings. Check out their estimations.

Wilson is neither type A or B according to them.

Benihana · 07-27-2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrap Irony

Ian Snell and Jack Wilson.

Sigh.

(On another note, would Wilson be a Type A free agent?)

I'd take that, as long as they don't give up one of the Top 4 prospects to get 'em (Alonso, Frazier, Heisey, Stewart). I would like to see Ian Snell in Red- I think he could easily turn it around and pitch up to his contract.

Again though, it can't be the only move.

cumberlandreds · 07-27-2009, 11:00 AM

Jaun Pierre. He would fit in with the present scheme of things.

Jpup · 07-27-2009, 11:03 AM

Gary Matthews Jr.

Homer Bailey · 07-27-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cumberlandreds

Jaun Pierre. He would fit in with the present scheme of things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jpup

Gary Matthews Jr.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrap Irony

Ian Snell and Jack Wilson.

Sigh.

(On another note, would Wilson be a Type A free agent?)

Surprised many people think the Reds will be adding payroll when they are completely out of the race. I severely doubt we will be adding any players making $5M or more.

Jpup · 07-27-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Homer Bailey

Surprised many people think the Reds will be adding payroll when they are completely out of the race. I severely doubt we will be adding any players making $5M or more.

Cordero for Matthews Jr. and Brandon Wood? I also never said I wanted him on the team. It's just seams like a Walt/Dusty/Reds type of move. I don't think LA is inclined to move Pierre, but I do think he is inclined to leave.

07-27-2009, 09:34 AM	#1
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,406	Predict the newest Red I can't fathom a scenario where Walt doesn't make at least one deal by Friday. So please, without the bitter sarcasm (hard as that may be), predict who will be the newest member of the organization by Friday. I'll start with Mark Teahen. I see the Reds trading some mid-tier prospects for Teahen, the poor man's Mark DeRosa, and billing it as a trade for the present and the future. It will be nice in that it will give them some flexibility with Encarnacion and the outfield. However, assuming that's the only "big" move, I'll be underwhelmed. What I would really like to see is the Reds trade Matt Maloney for any number of underperforming, high-potential outfielders. Wladimir Balentien, Elijah Dukes, and Delmon Young could all be had quite easily at the moment. I'd like to see WJ pull a Krivsky and take a chance on a high-upside bat. Unfortunately with the current GM, I think a Teahen-type trade is much more likely. What's your prediction- who will be the newest Red by the end of the week? __________________ Go BLUE!!! Last edited by Benihana; 07-27-2009 at 09:39 AM.

07-27-2009, 10:02 AM	#2
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,820	Re: Predict the newest Red I think there will be a lot of new Reds starting soon. I see Walt making wholesale changes on the roster, including moving up AAA and maybe even AA guys and trading a lot of folks. Including some of the good players. Not just deadline deals, but also off-season changes. Just my feeling that Walt probably is now confident that he knows what he has, and that the next phase will be a lot of changeover to come up with a better mix. I'll start with Scott Rolen, but I think that's the tip of the iceberg. Last edited by Kc61; 07-27-2009 at 10:06 AM.

07-27-2009, 10:35 AM	#3
bucksfan2 Waitin til next year Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 9,610	Re: Predict the newest Red I thin Scott Rolen will be a Red for the 2010 season. I don't know if a deal gets down by the deadline or if one gets done in the off season. If a deal gets done in the off season I see a slobber knocker deal getting done. I have a feeling that Weathers and Rhodes will be moved but I do not know their return.

07-27-2009, 10:45 AM	#4
edabbs44 Box of Frogs Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 15,807	Re: Predict the newest Red I'll go off the charts a bit and say Kevin Kouzmanoff.

07-27-2009, 10:48 AM	#5
HotCorner Big League Choo! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The 513 Posts: 2,157	Re: Predict the newest Red Me >>> branch >>> Josh Willingham __________________ YouTube - Randy Pausch Last Lecture: Achieving Your Childhood Dreams Baseball Stars Rocks!

07-27-2009, 10:49 AM	#6
Homer Bailey I'm back... and forth Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,595	Re: Predict the newest Red It would be much much much smarter to wait until the offseason to make a deal for Rolen, when his trade value will be significantly lower.

07-27-2009, 10:50 AM	#7
Scrap Irony Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Bedford, KY Posts: 8,992	Re: Predict the newest Red Ian Snell and Jack Wilson. Sigh. (On another note, would Wilson be a Type A free agent?) __________________ "You can learn little from victory. You can learn everything from defeat." -- Christy Matthewson "Show me a good loser and I'll show you an idiot." -- Leo Durocher

07-27-2009, 10:53 AM	#8
TRF Vavasor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 12,669	Re: Predict the newest Red Chris Heisey, Drew Stubbs and Justin Lehr. Oh you mean outside the organization? No one. __________________ "don't end up with a grandson with a dog collar."

07-27-2009, 11:00 AM	#12
cumberlandreds Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sterling VA Posts: 7,826	Re: Predict the newest Red Jaun Pierre. He would fit in with the present scheme of things. __________________ Reds Fan Since 1971

07-27-2009, 11:03 AM	#13
Jpup Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern KY Posts: 6,967	Re: Predict the newest Red Gary Matthews Jr. __________________ "My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton

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