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I(heart)Freel · 07-31-2009, 04:11 PM

A) It's not Alonso.

B) If it were, the BJ's would be sending like ALL of Rolen's salary for this and next year along with it.

C) But it's not Alonso.

BuckeyeRedleg · 07-31-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kc61

Here's the contrary argument.

Rolen is only 34. He has several good years left. He is a huge upgrade at third, defensively and offensively.

EE isn't worth too much. He could even be considered a liability given his own contract. The Jays may be less than excited to get him.

Alonso is a good prospect but he plays Votto's position. His potential spot is filled on the roster with a free agent who plays the outfield and hits. Votto to LF was always a pipe dream.

It does seem like a lot to give up. But sometimes you have to overpay rather than stay in neutral.

I'm not thrilled at all, but can understand the deal and at least it should make the Reds better for next year.

Are you seriously trying to justify this stupidity?

Ltlabner · 07-31-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

The Reds are so stupid sometimes it genuinely hurts. Scott Rolen is having a fluke of a season, will more than likely be the player he was in 2007 and 2008, and on top of giving up EdE they give up Alonso?

Damn...I've heard this story somewhere before....

traderumor · 07-31-2009, 04:12 PM

ok, no one committing Harry Carey (you go "a one, a two, a three" before shoving the sword through) or kicking the dog. The Alonso reference is pure speculation at this point.

HumnHilghtFreel · 07-31-2009, 04:12 PM

All I can say is, if Alonso is involved, I may be looking for another ____zone site to post on

*BaseClogger* · 07-31-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kc61

Rolen is only 34. He has several good years left. He is a huge upgrade at third, defensively and offensively.

That's simply inaccurate...

cincrazy · 07-31-2009, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kc61

Here's the contrary argument.

Rolen is only 34. He has several good years left. He is a huge upgrade at third, defensively and offensively.

EE isn't worth too much. He could even be considered a liability given his own contract. The Jays may be less than excited to get him.

Alonso is a good prospect but he plays Votto's position. His potential spot is filled on the roster with a free agent who plays the outfield and hits. Votto to LF was always a pipe dream.

It does seem like a lot to give up. But sometimes you have to overpay rather than stay in neutral.

I'm not thrilled at all, but can understand the deal and at least it should make the Reds better for next year.

I can't understand it at all, if it's true. You give up top prospects for a Matt Holliday, perhaps (even that's debatable). You DO NOT give them up for 34 year old 3B unlikely to stay healthy.

Jpup · 07-31-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cincrazy

I can't understand it at all, if it's true. You give up top prospects for a Matt Holliday, perhaps (even that's debatable). You DO NOT give them up for 34 year old 3B unlikely to stay healthy.

No way the Reds are that stupid, are they?

Cyclone792 · 07-31-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jpup

#Reds source says reports of Encarnacion plus Alonso for Rolen are not accurate. We'll see...

You know, Twitter's a cool concept and all, but it sure would be nice if the blowhards using it to report trade information would actually get accurate information and verify said information before posting stuff ...

traderumor · 07-31-2009, 04:14 PM

I think I'm going to start an internet support group, one session clearly on handling real-time information.

I(heart)Freel · 07-31-2009, 04:14 PM

Assuming it's not Alonso... because who is going to stay on a Reds fan site if that happens... who might the minor leaguer actually be?

Kc61 · 07-31-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg

Are you seriously trying to justify this stupidity?

No. I was giving the contrary argument. I said that I'm not thrilled with the EE/Alonso combo -- if that's it.

Boy, you really have to careful around here.

reds44 · 07-31-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyclone792

You know, Twitter's a cool concept and all, but it sure would be nice if the blowhards using it to report trade information would actually get accurate information and verify said information before posting stuff ...

JESUS lol

thatcoolguy_22 · 07-31-2009, 04:14 PM

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Kc61 · 07-31-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by I(heart)Freel

Assuming it's not Alonso... because who is going to stay on a Reds fan site if that happens... who might the minor leaguer actually be?

My guess is Stubbs or Heisey.

07-31-2009, 04:11 PM	#151
I(heart)Freel Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Side (No Diggity) Posts: 1,010	Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds A) It's not Alonso. B) If it were, the BJ's would be sending like ALL of Rolen's salary for this and next year along with it. C) But it's not Alonso. __________________ I have a love-hate relationship with Albert Pujols. Mostly hate.

07-31-2009, 04:12 PM	#154
traderumor Unsolicited Opinions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right Down Broadway Posts: 17,648	Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds ok, no one committing Harry Carey (you go "a one, a two, a three" before shoving the sword through) or kicking the dog. The Alonso reference is pure speculation at this point.

07-31-2009, 04:12 PM	#155
HumnHilghtFreel Manliness Personified Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,690	Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds All I can say is, if Alonso is involved, I may be looking for another ____zone site to post on

07-31-2009, 04:14 PM	#160
traderumor Unsolicited Opinions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right Down Broadway Posts: 17,648	Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds I think I'm going to start an internet support group, one session clearly on handling real-time information.

07-31-2009, 04:14 PM	#161
I(heart)Freel Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Side (No Diggity) Posts: 1,010	Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds Assuming it's not Alonso... because who is going to stay on a Reds fan site if that happens... who might the minor leaguer actually be? __________________ I have a love-hate relationship with Albert Pujols. Mostly hate.

07-31-2009, 04:14 PM	#164
thatcoolguy_22 Battle Toad Historian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pyeongtaek, ROK Posts: 1,644	Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH If this is true I promise I will not watch another game for the rest of the year. I might become a royals fan. Who knows. At least when Grienke pitches its interesting. __________________ A lil more east than most on this board.

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