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Strikes Out Looking · 07-31-2009, 04:24 PM

The glass:

1/2 empty: Stewart could be quite a pitcher down the road, Roenicke seemed to be a decent reliever and EE could end up hitting ok. And Rolen could go back to his gimpy ways.

1/2 full: Defense is upgraded tremendously--3b is better and Votto won't have to work as hard at 1b. The Reds still have lots of prospects to develop and/or trade. Rolen is a much more consistent hitter than EE and makes LF easier to fill (no need for as big a bat as before).

I(heart)Freel · 07-31-2009, 04:24 PM

Going to be a while before we hear the accurate amount of cash coming this way. You can bank on it being a nice amount with the two pitchers thrown in.

Hate to lose the prospects, but if BJs send cash, there's still decent money to get a SS or LF next season. Just saying.

edabbs44 · 07-31-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFelixCat

WTF on Stewart? Have you seen his numbers from this year? I just don't get this. COME ON!

Very Bailey like, those numbers.

bucksfan2 · 07-31-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by traderumor

According to what I've read, Stewart was highly thought of. But, I wonder if there was more to his move to the bullpen in Louisville than just innings reduction?

Thats what I was thinking.

rotnoid · 07-31-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dunner13

i know everyone loves stewart but in the top 100 prospects in baseball hes ranked where???? I mean hes a nice pitching prospect but you do have to give up something to get an all start GG thirdbasemen.

Right, you have to pay to get stuff. I don't hate this deal, and I can breathe again now that I know it's not Alonso. I just don't know if I understand the timing of it all.

Expect some waiver deals next month for Arroyo or Harang.

Falls City Beer · 07-31-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFelixCat

EdE...fine, I can deal w/ that.

Roenicke...ok, he's a BP arm...livable.

WTF on Stewart? Have you seen his numbers from this year? I just don't get this. COME ON!

In short, he's a Reds' pitching prospect. Useless to the Reds.

But it's entirely possible that the Jays' farm system can develop him into something.

dsmith421 · 07-31-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dunner13

i know everyone loves stewart but in the top 100 prospects in baseball hes ranked where???? I mean hes a nice pitching prospect but you do have to give up something to get an all start GG thirdbasemen.

Then we should have made this deal in 2002.

Benihana · 07-31-2009, 04:25 PM

Awful, awful trade. Walt is done.

Ltlabner · 07-31-2009, 04:25 PM

Cue Walt supporters with: Edwin had a bad attitude and was a clubhouse cancer

vaticanplum · 07-31-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

In short, he's a Reds' pitching prospect. Useless to the Reds.

But it's entirely possible that the Jays' farm system can develop him into something.

This is so sad, but I'd almost rather see good pitchers from the Reds' farm system go elsewhere while they're young, so they still have a chance.

Pathetic.

Reds Fanatic · 07-31-2009, 04:26 PM

Trading Stewart is going to look really dumb in a few years. They should have let Walt take his afternoon nap.

flyer85 · 07-31-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormy

And a kiss first.

pretty sure they skipped the foreplay. "The pimp" found his ____

Stormy · 07-31-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ltlabner

As I was afraid: Target fixation and no other deals to support it.

He really telegraphs and then hones in without a Plan B, eh?

dsmith421 · 07-31-2009, 04:26 PM

Rolen is one of my favorite players of all time, it's a shame that we're going to get the Griffey-esque "Fat Elvis" years of his career.

traderumor · 07-31-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

Zach Stewart will win a Cy Young for Toronto. Bank on it. Seriously.

So, "there is no such thing as a pitching prospect" doesn't apply here? I really know nothing about Stewart other than he is highly thought of on RZ, but I shrug anymore on dealing prospects. So many of them don't pan out or are fringe players. I laughed the other night when Jeff Stevens appeared for the Cubs, who was the PTBNL for Brandon Phillips. He made it to the majors, but I think we got our money's worth out of that prospect deal. Here's hoping Rolen is the beginning of rebuilding the O.

07-31-2009, 04:24 PM	#241
Strikes Out Looking Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,273	Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds The glass: 1/2 empty: Stewart could be quite a pitcher down the road, Roenicke seemed to be a decent reliever and EE could end up hitting ok. And Rolen could go back to his gimpy ways. 1/2 full: Defense is upgraded tremendously--3b is better and Votto won't have to work as hard at 1b. The Reds still have lots of prospects to develop and/or trade. Rolen is a much more consistent hitter than EE and makes LF easier to fill (no need for as big a bat as before). __________________ The Future Is Now!

07-31-2009, 04:24 PM	#242
I(heart)Freel Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Side (No Diggity) Posts: 1,012	Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds Going to be a while before we hear the accurate amount of cash coming this way. You can bank on it being a nice amount with the two pitchers thrown in. Hate to lose the prospects, but if BJs send cash, there's still decent money to get a SS or LF next season. Just saying. __________________ I have a love-hate relationship with Albert Pujols. Mostly hate.

07-31-2009, 04:25 PM	#248
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,662	Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds Awful, awful trade. Walt is done. __________________ Go BLUE!!!

07-31-2009, 04:25 PM	#249
Ltlabner 2009: Fail Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 7,441	Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds Cue Walt supporters with: Edwin had a bad attitude and was a clubhouse cancer __________________ a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude. I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

07-31-2009, 04:26 PM	#251
Reds Fanatic Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Piqua, OH Posts: 16,441	Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds Trading Stewart is going to look really dumb in a few years. They should have let Walt take his afternoon nap.

07-31-2009, 04:26 PM	#254
dsmith421 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,085	Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds Rolen is one of my favorite players of all time, it's a shame that we're going to get the Griffey-esque "Fat Elvis" years of his career.

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