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Old 07-31-2009, 04:27 PM   #256
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Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

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They got friggin' hosed in this deal.

Stewart?

They must really think Rolen is still what he was seven years ago.

Dummies.

I remember the outrage when we traded a minor league pitcher with good numbers (Buddy Carlyle) for Kroon. I trust Walt to sort out the keepers in the minor leagues. Other than the Harden-Mulder deal, he's proven to be pretty good at that.

If we're stuck with Arroyo, Cordero and Harang next year, might as well try to piece together a starting 8 and do something.

Once again, I am thrilled to see EdE get "booted" out of town.
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:27 PM   #257
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Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

If the Reds now try to get very good major league players to fill their holes for next year, this is ok.

If the Reds do their usual bit -- make one move and sit on their hands -- then this is a terrible trade.
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:27 PM   #258
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Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

Who plays 3rd tonight? WHO!!??
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:27 PM   #259
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Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

I understand wanting to get value, but in all honesty, where would Stewart rank among the young pitchers in the organization? 5th? 6th?

I've got to think he's behind in no particular order: Cueto, Volquez, Bailey, Wood, and maybe some of the relievers like Fisher right?
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:27 PM   #260
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He really telegraphs and then hones in without a Plan B, eh?
He did the same thing with everybody's favorite CF.
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:27 PM   #261
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Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

I don't know. I'd pretty much chew off a limb to get rid of Encarnacion. I like Roenicke, but if Stewart doesn't pan out then it's Roenicke for Rolen and that strikes me as a winner for the Reds.
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Bad trade.
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:27 PM   #263
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Who plays 3rd tonight? WHO!!??
Rosales.
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Very Bailey like, those numbers.
You know....That's not a bad point at all. It really isn't.

But I wouldn't be willing to risk that notion on a 35 year old has been with a tweaked out back.

Guh.
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:28 PM   #265
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Cue Walt supporters with: Edwin had a bad attitude and was a clubhouse cancer
Nah Edwin was just bad. .209/.333/.374 was the reality of what he put up this year plus missing 60 games to the DL. Throw in the fact that he was awful on the defensive end and you have a problem at 3b.
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Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

I swear, I'm not sure how anyone can accept this.

As I said for the past few days, EE for Rolen is debatable.

But Roenicke and STEWART?

Walt has gone mad. This trade will be laughed at by the baseball world. The Reds have been BUNGAL-ized. I swear.

Time to drink.
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If the Reds now try to get very good major league players to fill their holes for next year, this is ok.

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They didn't try this past offseason, why would they start this offseason?
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I don't know. I'd pretty much chew off a limb to get rid of Encarnacion. I like Roenicke, but if Stewart doesn't pan out then it's Roenicke for Rolen and that strikes me as a winner for the Reds.
I concur ...
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I understand wanting to get value, but in all honesty, where would Stewart rank among the young pitchers in the organization? 5th? 6th?

I've got to think he's behind in no particular order: Cueto, Volquez, Bailey, Wood, and maybe some of the relievers like Fisher right?
Way above Wood and probably above Bailey. Now about Volquez because it looks like his injury could be very serious.


Awful awful day for the Reds.
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:29 PM   #270
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Re: Heyman says Rolen to the Reds

Well, it looks like the usual party lines are being drawn.
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