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Old 08-11-2009, 10:38 PM   #1
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Pryor is fast, but how fast?

I have seen Pryor play against Penn State and though he was pretty fluid as a runner. Plus I remember him playing some track in high school. But no way he ran a 4.33 40.




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I'm pretty much sold on Terrelle Pryor as the awe-inspiring heir to Vince Young's torch as the lanky, multi-faceted, absurdly fast quarterbacking beast of every defense's nightmares. The Cleveland Plain-Dealer added another dimension to that today when it reported that Pryor is the fastest player on Ohio State's team, an innocent enough proposition until you get to the details:

His [Pryor's] 40 time was a speedy 4.33. Sophomore receiver Lamaar Thomas said he ran a 4.37 and no one else ran under 4.4 when the players were timed early this summer. ...

"I'm not so sure he might not be one of the fastest guys in the conference," OSU coach Jim Tressel said of Pryor. "I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Our other guys aren't slow."

If that time is correct, it would make Pryor not only the fastest Buckeye, but surely one of the fastest humans on earth. Consider that a 4.33 40 is significantly faster than any quarterback has run for the electronic clocks at the NFL Combine in the last four years, including Pat White (who turned in an official 4.55 in February at 197 pounds), and in fact more than a full tenth of a second faster than any running back or cornerback ran at this year's combine. Only one player at that entire event, Darrius Heyward-Bey, came in with a faster time (4.30) than Pryor's alleged 4.33. Of Pryor's six non-lineman teammates in Indianapolis -- a group that included Beanie Wells, Malcolm Jenkins and Brian Robiskie -- only one, cornerback Donald Washington, came in under 4.5 (4.49). In 2007, Ted Ginn Jr's "official" workout times ranged from 4.37 to 4.45, which knocked the scouts out. Ginn then weighed 178 pounds. Pryor's usual analog, Vince Young, reportedly ran the 40 in 4.58 seconds in 2006 at 228 pounds, on what was apparently considered a "fast track" in Austin. Some plausible (though hardly foolproof) speculation has suggested that a 4.33 is a hair faster than the time Usain Bolt turned in on the first 40 yards of his world-record 100-meter sprint in the 2008 Olympics, or than any other world-record 100-meter sprinter has turned in on the first 40 yards going back to Ben Johnson in 1988.

Terrelle Pryor is listed at 235 pounds. His long, gazelle-like stride does make him deceptively fast. But a legitimate 4.33 at 235 pounds would make him an actual gazelle. A human being of that size moving at that speed is not yet conceivable. This is not Florida-level fake, but still: Totally bogus
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:40 PM   #2
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Re: Pryor is fast, but how fast?

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I have seen Pryor play against Penn State and though he was pretty fluid as a runner. Plus I remember him playing some track in high school. But no way he ran a 4.33 40.
Saw a picture of him on move in day, on Bucknuts. He looks like he has been living in the weight room.
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:24 PM   #3
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Re: Pryor is fast, but how fast?

that was on the OSU "fast track" that they use for the OSU pro day from what I've read.

It would probably have been 4.4ish - 4.5ish on the combine surface.

Still pretty fast for a guy his size.
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:18 PM   #4
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Re: Pryor is fast, but how fast?

Pryor is smooth. Kind of like Vince Young. But there's no way he runs a 4.33, and there's no way he's faster than Pat White. I don't buy that for a second.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:44 PM   #5
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Re: Pryor is fast, but how fast?

I'll give the kid the benefit of the doubt.

He strides beautifully, and accelerates quickly for his size, so given the long stride and coming up to full speed quickly, a 4.33 is feasible.

My question would be the timing mechanism. Did they start the clock when he moved, or did the clock start and then he moved? I've seen 40s timed both ways. Different timing methods could be the difference between 4.33 and 4.4, IMO.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:49 PM   #6
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Re: Pryor is fast, but how fast?

He has deceptive speed because of how big he is, and his long strides. There's no decieving the stopwatch.
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:20 AM   #7
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Re: Pryor is fast, but how fast?

He ran it on the Ohio State Pro Day fast track. So what if that translates to a 4.45 on the combine surface? It was still the best time on a very talented and speedy Buckeye squad. The bottom line is that he is fudging fast...
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:22 AM   #8
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Re: Pryor is fast, but how fast?

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He ran it on the Ohio State Pro Day fast track. So what if that translates to a 4.45 on the combine surface? It was still the best time on a very talented and speedy Buckeye squad. The bottom line is that he is fudging fast...
He's almost as talented as Vandy's qb. :

(bc is playing as vandy in our online dynasty)

I think baseclogger is becoming an sec fan. Better not let your fellow bucks find out about that, clogger! WHOOPS! SORRY.
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:51 AM   #9
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Re: Pryor is fast, but how fast?

I have found plenty of articles from when Pryor was being recruited claiming he runs at sub 4.4 times.So now OSU claims that its 4.33 and its impossible?

Here's a few.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-...osus-dominance

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recru...ory?id=3301454
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Re: Pryor is fast, but how fast?

He's not as fast as Baylor's QB.
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Old 08-13-2009, 03:01 AM   #11
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He's not as fast as Baylor's QB.
Not to rude but who cares?
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:18 PM   #12
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Re: Pryor is fast, but how fast?

Fast is fast baby.

Who cares if it's 4.33, 4.39, 4.4, or 4.45?
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:42 PM   #13
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Re: Pryor is fast, but how fast?

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Fast is fast baby.

Who cares if it's 4.33, 4.39, 4.4, or 4.45?
Any of those puts Pryor in the top 2-3% of all players.
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:22 PM   #14
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Any of those puts Pryor in the top 2-3% of all players.
Which I'd say he is.
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