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Re: The Milton Bradley Thread
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...articleid=9559
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He's not even close on this one.
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But with all those disclaimers out of the way, I can't say taken in isolation that I disagree with Sheehan on this particular topic. I do feel like two weeks suspension for those comments is a bit extreme, and I think it's partially to deflect criticism from the signing itself to begin with. I don't agree with the extreme in which he's defending Bradley on this, but I do think there's some certain validity to the point he's making.
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Re: The Milton Bradley Thread
What is 2?
The number of times Bradley's OBP (.378) is printed in this article. That half-explains (.50) where Baseball Prospectus stands.
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Re: The Milton Bradley Thread
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If they want to do something then sit him on the bench and trade him. Any other act (like what they are doing) is a smoke screen for a bad season. And despite the smoke they won't be able to get away from their bad season even if Bradley is gone today. I think it that Bradley is a loose cannon, but now I know the Cubs are scared organization, afraid of their past, afraid of their current legacy and afraid of their future. |
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Re: The Milton Bradley Thread
Milton Bradley, the Cubs and Cubs fans.
They all deserve each other.
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Don't really believe in attributing any kind of deeply rooted psychopathology to a baseball organization, either. They've had a down year, expectations were high, patience grew thin. So they try to save a little face by suspending a guy who's been a royal pain in the ass. Shrug. They'll be back next year with a good roster and a great revenue stream. Could be worse than to be the Cubs.
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Assuming anything else is off base. When you have guys like Dempster, Lee and Ramirez agreeing with the decision, it gives additional credibility to the move. |
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Rally Onion!
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Looks like Milton's mom says he'll come back if the Cubs let him.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/ml...ory?id=4496640
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Re: The Milton Bradley Thread
Between the lines its not really even close. Willy has been that bad offensively.
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But Bradley has two more years and costs $20M more, and most likely the Cubs will see zero production out of it. The Reds only have one more year of Taveras, and the costs $4M. Basically it's $30M for around $5 of production vs. $6M for -$1 of production, assuming that Taveras does not play or provides replacement value production next year. That adds up to -$25M for the Cubs vs. -$7M for the Reds. You can also figure in that in order to get rid of Bradley, the Cubs probably need to throw in around $17-8M, so that would cut their cost down to around $22M, while the Reds would have to throw in around $3M to get rid of Taveras, so their cost would be around $6M then. Either way, the Cubs got the worse deal overall by over a 3 to 1 ratio. And that's saying something.
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Re: The Milton Bradley Thread
The only way Taveras is a better signing than Taveras is if the Cubs choose to release him. Bradley would have given them $5M of production for $30M of salary -- a net less of $25M. If Taveras is replacement level next year, the Reds would have paid Taveras $6.25M for -$1M in production -- a net loss of $7.25M.
It's actually reasonable to suggest that Bradley has been the worse contract, both this year and over the life of the contract.
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