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OnBaseMachine · 10-18-2009, 08:48 PM

Prospect #1 - Yonder Alonso
Prospect #2 - Mike Leake

dougdirt · 10-18-2009, 08:53 PM

Todd Frazier.

Solid walk rate.
Low strikeout rate this season after a moderate strikeout rate in the past.
Can play defense in LF and 3B, while trying to learn 2B.
20-25 HR pop with 40 doubles is not out of his power realm at all.

OnBaseMachine · 10-18-2009, 08:54 PM

I went with Todd Frazier. He reminds me a bit of a right handed Joey Votto - not the most talented player you will see but, like Votto, he's a smart player and very hard worker. He's a doubles machine - he finished tied for third in the minors with 45 doubles this season - and has solid homerun power. I think he's a future 20-25 HR and 40 double type of hitter in the majors.

dougdirt · 10-18-2009, 08:56 PM

You know OBM, you really shouldn't copy things I say!

Spazzrico · 10-18-2009, 11:43 PM

Seriously you two. Get a room.

Brutus · 10-19-2009, 12:23 AM

I voted Frazier for the reasons OBM and doug both mentioned (is there an echo in here?) lol

RedsManRick · 10-19-2009, 01:15 AM

Should be Frazier in a runaway.

icehole3 · 10-19-2009, 04:06 AM

One would hope the Reds would move Phillips to SS and play Frazier at 2B, the Reds are broke this could go a long ways into fixing the O without spending extra money needed in other places

mth123 · 10-19-2009, 04:14 AM

This is where it gets a little tough. IMO Frazier, Francisco, Heisey and Y-Rod could all be the guy here. While I'm not as optimistic about Frazier as others, I do think he will be a very useful and valuable player in some yet to be determined role. Francisco could end up being a power hitting mainstay but also has a higher chance of being a complete washout. Y-Rod is off to a good start, but he's just so far away with so many possibilities of things going wrong that I can't put him ahead of the others. Heisey was my guy here until he had a big drop on his promotion to AAA, now I need to see more from him. Based on all of that, Frazier is the most likely of the group to be a solid contributor at the big league level and though I think the others could all end up as higher echelon guys, the higher probability of solid gets Frazier my vote.

dougdirt · 10-19-2009, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehole3

One would hope the Reds would move Phillips to SS and play Frazier at 2B, the Reds are broke this could go a long ways into fixing the O without spending extra money needed in other places

This of course assumes a few things. One, the Reds plan to keep Brandon Phillips past his current contract. If they don't plan on that, then that move will never happen. Frazier also must learn to play 2B. He is still quite rough there. Its also an assumption that a Zack Cozart/Brandon Phillips duo isn't a better plan with Frazier getting time elsewhere (3B or LF).

icehole3 · 10-19-2009, 07:00 AM

Is he a butcher in the field?

chicoruiz · 10-19-2009, 08:06 AM

I'm hoping Frazier is phased in gradually as Rolen's replacement- I think his best success would be at 3b.

klw · 10-19-2009, 08:36 AM

How is Todd Walker as a comp for Frazier?

TRF · 10-19-2009, 09:21 AM

Yorman. Again.

Scrap Irony · 10-19-2009, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehole3

Is he a butcher in the field?

Pretty rough. He's got a very good arm and positions himself well, but he's awkward, especially around the second base bag. In short, with practive, he should be serviceable.

And, FWIW, I think Todd Walker is an excellent comp for Frazier, all the way around. (Though Frazier should probably hit with more power.)

View Poll Results: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect?
Brad Boxberger	0	0%
Zack Cozart	1	0.66%
Danny Dorn	1	0.66%
Juan Duran	0	0%
Juan Francisco	33	21.85%
Todd Frazier	81	53.64%
Chris Heisey	3	1.99%
Matt Maloney	0	0%
Devin Mesoraco	0	0%
Yorman Rodriguez	18	11.92%
Neftali Soto	0	0%
Juan Carlos Sulbaran	0	0%
Chris Valaika	1	0.66%
Travis Wood	13	8.61%
other - name him	0	0%
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10-18-2009, 08:56 PM	#4
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,677	Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? You know OBM, you really shouldn't copy things I say! __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

10-18-2009, 11:43 PM	#5
Spazzrico Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 375	Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? Seriously you two. Get a room.

10-19-2009, 12:23 AM	#6
Brutus Et tu, Brutus? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 8,928	Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? I voted Frazier for the reasons OBM and doug both mentioned (is there an echo in here?) lol __________________ "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

10-19-2009, 01:15 AM	#7
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,913	Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? Should be Frazier in a runaway. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

10-18-2009, 08:48 PM	#1
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,655	Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? Prospect #1 - Yonder Alonso Prospect #2 - Mike Leake

10-18-2009, 08:53 PM	#2
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,677	Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? Todd Frazier. Solid walk rate. Low strikeout rate this season after a moderate strikeout rate in the past. Can play defense in LF and 3B, while trying to learn 2B. 20-25 HR pop with 40 doubles is not out of his power realm at all. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

10-18-2009, 08:54 PM	#3
OnBaseMachine Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 34,655	Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? I went with Todd Frazier. He reminds me a bit of a right handed Joey Votto - not the most talented player you will see but, like Votto, he's a smart player and very hard worker. He's a doubles machine - he finished tied for third in the minors with 45 doubles this season - and has solid homerun power. I think he's a future 20-25 HR and 40 double type of hitter in the majors.

10-19-2009, 04:06 AM	#8
icehole3 Member Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 3,027	Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? One would hope the Reds would move Phillips to SS and play Frazier at 2B, the Reds are broke this could go a long ways into fixing the O without spending extra money needed in other places

10-19-2009, 04:14 AM	#9
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,678	Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? This is where it gets a little tough. IMO Frazier, Francisco, Heisey and Y-Rod could all be the guy here. While I'm not as optimistic about Frazier as others, I do think he will be a very useful and valuable player in some yet to be determined role. Francisco could end up being a power hitting mainstay but also has a higher chance of being a complete washout. Y-Rod is off to a good start, but he's just so far away with so many possibilities of things going wrong that I can't put him ahead of the others. Heisey was my guy here until he had a big drop on his promotion to AAA, now I need to see more from him. Based on all of that, Frazier is the most likely of the group to be a solid contributor at the big league level and though I think the others could all end up as higher echelon guys, the higher probability of solid gets Frazier my vote. __________________ "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

10-19-2009, 07:00 AM	#11
icehole3 Member Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 3,027	Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? Is he a butcher in the field?

10-19-2009, 08:06 AM	#12
chicoruiz Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,662	Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? I'm hoping Frazier is phased in gradually as Rolen's replacement- I think his best success would be at 3b. __________________ "In baseball, you don't know nothin'"...Yogi Berra

10-19-2009, 08:36 AM	#13
klw Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New England Posts: 4,284	Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? How is Todd Walker as a comp for Frazier?

10-19-2009, 09:21 AM	#14
TRF Vavasor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 12,669	Re: Who is Redszone's #3 prospect? Yorman. Again. __________________ "don't end up with a grandson with a dog collar."

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