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Matt700wlw · 01-12-2010, 01:48 PM

They've kept the right guy....now dump the wrong one.

Good start so far!

SunDeck · 01-12-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamSelig

We do need some offensive help, but I'd like to see some great defensive players drafted somewhat early. Let's take something we were good at, and make it great. Offense should be alot easier to correct.

Is it that hard to teach a running back to catch the ball? Or is Cedric Benson just not a guy who would catch and run anyway? But I agree with you TS, and even though I think the Bengals need some help to give them more throwing options, building a defensive powerhouse can't hurt.

Oxilon · 01-12-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamSelig

We do need some offensive help, but I'd like to see some great defensive players drafted somewhat early. Let's take something we were good at, and make it great. Offense should be alot easier to correct.

Problem with that is the Bengals have $100MM wrapped around Carson Palmer. If they're going to have a great defense (like the Ravens in 2000), you need the majority of your payroll wrapped around it. And you can't have a $100MM QB.

Sea Ray · 01-12-2010, 01:59 PM

That long article on Bratkowski didn't hit on his biggest issues such as playcalling. Why don't we run the no huddle? Palmer ran it very well 4 yrs ago. Why not now? Why don't we have a bubble screen in our playbook? We can't this offense execute a slant pattern? These are simple things that even rookie QBs can do.

Why did the offense lead the league in penalties?

As for Palmer his biggest problem was not looking off receivers. He locked onto them. He needs to work on that skill for 2010.

I don't think Brat knows the problems with this offense and for that reason is not the guy to turn it around

HeatherC1212 · 01-12-2010, 03:02 PM

I'm SOOOOO glad they kept Zimmer in Cincy!

Now let's get going on fixing this whole offense problem, LOL

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traderumor · 01-12-2010, 03:14 PM

I'm a little slow on the trigger, came to post the news about Zimm, but see I am way behing, so I'll just say

Woo Hoo! Good news for the Bengals.

yab1112 · 01-12-2010, 03:18 PM

Wasn't expecting this to happen so soon. I figured it would be a long drawn out process that would keep us in suspense. Kudos to Mike Brown for getting it done.

redsfandan · 01-12-2010, 04:11 PM

Now that we know Zimmer will be back I expect the defense to be even better once they get some guys healthy. Time to concentrate on the offense.

Reds Fanatic · 01-12-2010, 04:51 PM

That is fantastic news on Zimmer. The defense just keeps improving under Zimmer and next year should be another good year for the defense as some of the injured players come back.

Redsfaithful · 01-12-2010, 04:58 PM

Mike Brown really hasn't been as horrible as usual in the past 12 months, apart from the Andre Smith negotiations, and it's hard to tell who's really at fault with that sort of thing. Maybe we are entering an age where the Bengals will really just be a normal football team? I probably shouldn't be optimistic here, but the quickness of the Zimmer thing really surprised me.

Sea Ray · 01-12-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsfaithful

Mike Brown really hasn't been as horrible as usual in the past 12 months, apart from the Andre Smith negotiations, and it's hard to tell who's really at fault with that sort of thing. Maybe we are entering an age where the Bengals will really just be a normal football team? I probably shouldn't be optimistic here, but the quickness of the Zimmer thing really surprised me.

I hear what you're saying but I won't be impressed that things have changed unless he addresses the Offensive coach issues. If he brings back Bratkowski and WR coach Sheppard then it shows that he still doesn't demand excellence from his coaches and that'll lead to more mediocrity.

TeamSelig · 01-12-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxilon

Problem with that is the Bengals have $100MM wrapped around Carson Palmer. If they're going to have a great defense (like the Ravens in 2000), you need the majority of your payroll wrapped around it. And you can't have a $100MM QB.

Might be true. But I think if we target the right guys in the draft, we can stockpile good defensive talent for fairly cheap. I think we are a few good players from being pretty elite defensively.

It really depends on our younger players improving next season, which I think they will do. I think our offense can improve drastically just by signing a few stop gap players

WVRed · 01-12-2010, 06:38 PM

WOO HOO!

Kingspoint · 01-12-2010, 07:32 PM

Hallelujah!

Redsfaithful · 01-12-2010, 08:59 PM

I don't like Bratkowski either particularly, but given enough talent he can make an offense work, he's shown that in the past. I'd give someone else another chance if it were my team obviously, but the Bengals can win with him as coordinator.

I really think the Bengals just need a shutdown offensive line again that works in both the passing and running game. Palmer doesn't seem to trust his line at all, and the pocket collapses pretty frequently, I think that would solve a lot of issues. And it goes without saying they need another decent receiver or two.

01-12-2010, 01:48 PM	#31
Matt700wlw Making sense of it all Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26,131	Re: Bengals 2010 They've kept the right guy....now dump the wrong one. Good start so far! __________________ An excited shade of Red

01-12-2010, 01:59 PM	#34
Sea Ray Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 15,255	Re: Bengals 2010 That long article on Bratkowski didn't hit on his biggest issues such as playcalling. Why don't we run the no huddle? Palmer ran it very well 4 yrs ago. Why not now? Why don't we have a bubble screen in our playbook? We can't this offense execute a slant pattern? These are simple things that even rookie QBs can do. Why did the offense lead the league in penalties? As for Palmer his biggest problem was not looking off receivers. He locked onto them. He needs to work on that skill for 2010. I don't think Brat knows the problems with this offense and for that reason is not the guy to turn it around

01-12-2010, 03:02 PM	#35
HeatherC1212 Joey Votto Fangirl Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 2,518	Re: Bengals 2010 I'm SOOOOO glad they kept Zimmer in Cincy! Now let's get going on fixing this whole offense problem, LOL : __________________ "I tried to play golf, but I found out I wasn't very good." -Joey Votto on his offseason hobby search An MLB.com reporter asked what one thing Votto couldn’t do. “I can’t skate or play hockey,” Votto said. “Well, I can skate ... but I can’t stop.”

01-12-2010, 03:14 PM	#36
traderumor Unsolicited Opinions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right Down Broadway Posts: 17,666	Re: Bengals 2010 I'm a little slow on the trigger, came to post the news about Zimm, but see I am way behing, so I'll just say Woo Hoo! Good news for the Bengals. __________________ Can't win with 'em Can't win without 'em

01-12-2010, 03:18 PM	#37
yab1112 Test for fancy coffee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York Posts: 402	Re: Bengals 2010 Wasn't expecting this to happen so soon. I figured it would be a long drawn out process that would keep us in suspense. Kudos to Mike Brown for getting it done. __________________ My name is Cheesy Beef Burrito

01-12-2010, 04:11 PM	#38
redsfandan Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,361	Re: Bengals 2010 Now that we know Zimmer will be back I expect the defense to be even better once they get some guys healthy. Time to concentrate on the offense. __________________ "Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that."

01-12-2010, 04:51 PM	#39
Reds Fanatic Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Piqua, OH Posts: 16,437	Re: Bengals 2010 That is fantastic news on Zimmer. The defense just keeps improving under Zimmer and next year should be another good year for the defense as some of the injured players come back.

01-12-2010, 04:58 PM	#40
Redsfaithful A Little to the Left Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bexley, OH Posts: 7,417	Re: Bengals 2010 Mike Brown really hasn't been as horrible as usual in the past 12 months, apart from the Andre Smith negotiations, and it's hard to tell who's really at fault with that sort of thing. Maybe we are entering an age where the Bengals will really just be a normal football team? I probably shouldn't be optimistic here, but the quickness of the Zimmer thing really surprised me. __________________ We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. --Oscar Wilde

01-12-2010, 07:32 PM	#44
Kingspoint Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: All over Posts: 6,940	Re: Bengals 2010 Hallelujah!

01-12-2010, 08:59 PM	#45
Redsfaithful A Little to the Left Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bexley, OH Posts: 7,417	Re: Bengals 2010 I don't like Bratkowski either particularly, but given enough talent he can make an offense work, he's shown that in the past. I'd give someone else another chance if it were my team obviously, but the Bengals can win with him as coordinator. I really think the Bengals just need a shutdown offensive line again that works in both the passing and running game. Palmer doesn't seem to trust his line at all, and the pocket collapses pretty frequently, I think that would solve a lot of issues. And it goes without saying they need another decent receiver or two. __________________ We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. --Oscar Wilde

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