Bengals 2010 pt. I

[Kingspoint]

Originally Posted by Redhook

Now C'mon. Thanking Mike Brown for anything is taking it too far. I understand your dislike for Marvin, but Mike Brown hasn't changed and is certainly not the reason the Bengals have had 2 winning seasons out of the last 5. Mike Brown is an embarrassment to Cincinnati Bengals football and that will likely never change.

Putting all dislike for anyone aside, this was a great reward for the entire team. They get to be proud for having earned it together as a team. I'm sure they are all proud to have earned it for Marvin Lewis. It can only make everyone on the team closer.

[traderumor]

Originally Posted by Kingspoint

You didn't read the post. I was extremely clear. There has never been any "interest" for the worst Head Coach in the NFL. "Interest" is brandied about all the time while Head Coaches are still under contract. My jab is fact.

Reading this and your subsequent posts, it is clear that you have an extreme view, bringing into question any "facts" you may attempt to present.

[redsfandan]

Bengals special teams coach Darrin Simmons says that Shayne Graham's two misses in the Wild Card loss to the Jets has put the kicker's future with the organization under the microscope.

The Cincinnati Enquirer has already reported that the Bengals will "very likely" let Graham walk as a free agent and Simmons did nothing to quiet that notion. "Snaps were good. Holds were good. There’s no excuse. He picked a hell of a time to have a bad game," Simmons said.

[redsfandan]

I haven't been in this thread since 1/12 but I felt I should still respond to this post:

Originally Posted by TeamSelig

Replace Coles with a different vet receiver who can actually catch a ball consistently, and our offense is 2x better already.

Our running game is very good. We have a QB.... who USED to be pretty dominate (what happened!?) Hopefully he bounces back. I think you have to count on that. We have an elite receiver. We just need another solid receiver and a TE who can catch a ball. There is a chance that we have these needs on the team already.

What I mean is I'd rather have Average offense + Great Defense instead of Good offense + Good defense.

Maybe I just think the offense is easier to correct than you do. A new OC would instantly improve our offense IMO.

I think that's part of it but I also think that the defense already has the potential to be one of the very best next year and it just doesn't seem like you share that view.

Between key players missing time due to injury (Odom/Peko/etc) and inexperience (Maualuga/Rivers should only improve with more experience) I think the defense is in pretty good shape with a little better luck as far as injuries go. I'm in no way saying that they shouldn't add to the defense. I just think the offense is a higher priority. The defense wasn't a problem in '09. The offense was a problem.

[KoryMac5]

Improving the team speed on offense could and should help. I would definitely look at adding speed at the WR position as well as the TE position. We need a burner on the edge who can stretch the field. Look at the seperation the Colts got yesterday with Garcon and Collie, both pretty speedy receivers who run good routes.

I am all for taking a wideout or a TE in the first round if a good one is there.

[ChazzReinhold]

Originally Posted by redsfandan

Bengals special teams coach Darrin Simmons says that Shayne Graham's two misses in the Wild Card loss to the Jets has put the kicker's future with the organization under the microscope.

The Cincinnati Enquirer has already reported that the Bengals will "very likely" let Graham walk as a free agent and Simmons did nothing to quiet that notion. "Snaps were good. Holds were good. There’s no excuse. He picked a hell of a time to have a bad game," Simmons said.

What about the '05 playoffs? What about the '06 regular season miss vs PIttsburgh? It's not like his performance to choke in big games was an abberation.

With all that said, WR should be the #1 target for the Bengals. If they don't pick a WR, Greshman should be the choice if he's still available.

[TeamSelig]

Originally Posted by redsfandan

I haven't been in this thread since 1/12 but I felt I should still respond to this post:

I think that's part of it but I also think that the defense already has the potential to be one of the very best next year and it just doesn't seem like you share that view.

Between key players missing time due to injury (Odom/Peko/etc) and inexperience (Maualuga/Rivers should only improve with more experience) I think the defense is in pretty good shape with a little better luck as far as injuries go. I'm in no way saying that they shouldn't add to the defense. I just think the offense is a higher priority. The defense wasn't a problem in '09. The offense was a problem.

I think we have a potentially great defense, I just think we lack any kind of depth.

[Sea Ray]

Originally Posted by TeamSelig

I think we have a potentially great defense, I just think we lack any kind of depth.

We must have had very good depth this year in order to survive all the injuries. We lost Odom, Rey M, Tank, Roy Williams, Peko, Jeanty, & Crocker to significant injuries this year. That's an awful lot. I'd say their depth was very good to be able to withstand all of that.

[TeamSelig]

We played pretty poorly at the end of the season too. We still played okay once Odom was hurt, but when Peko got hurt, it really killed us.

[Kingspoint]

Originally Posted by TeamSelig

We played pretty poorly at the end of the season too. We still played okay once Odom was hurt, but when Peko got hurt, it really killed us.

Rotoworld thinks we should draft a DT with their first 2010 Mock Draft.

[KoryMac5]

Originally Posted by Kingspoint

Rotoworld thinks we should draft a DT with their first 2010 Mock Draft.

So far the mock's have been all over the board on the Bengals. Several stating a WR or TE and some saying we should go with defense. I would love a speedy wideout or a good TE, depends on the combine and who falls to us I suppose.

[bucksfan2]

Originally Posted by KoryMac5

So far the mock's have been all over the board on the Bengals. Several stating a WR or TE and some saying we should go with defense. I would love a speedy wideout or a good TE, depends on the combine and who falls to us I suppose.

Hernandez = Chase Coffmann. The Bengals employ a block first, catch pass second form or TE. Think Heath Miller or Todd Heap. Taking Hernandez, whom I have seen some mock drafts predict, makes little sense to me. The guy isn't the type of TE the Bengals use.

My list would be LT, WR, S, RB, QB, CB in that order. LT is the obvious need. Shift Whitworth back to G and get a bonified LT to help with the pass blocking. Need a WR to stretch the field. I would entertain trade ideas for both Marshall and Boldin, but use a 2nd rounder to try to fill that void. S is the next pressing need with depth needed at RB (especially one who can play in the return game), QB (Carson's heir apparent), and CB.

[Redsfaithful]

I think Whitworth only gave up one sack this year for whatever it's worth, and Marvin has been pretty vocal about him being great at left tackle. I think they see him as a good fit there, so I'm hoping they get a guard in the second round. Whitworth-New Guard-Cook-Williams-Smith could be a pretty decent line I think.

I think they need offensive help myself, but I also wouldn't be opposed to getting a safety in the first round. I'm hoping for safety or wide receiver first round and then best player available that fits after that.

[camisadelgolf]

I would love for the Bengals to draft an interior lineman as long as he projects to be elite. If the Bengals had Steve Hutchinson, it would have had a huge impact on their offensive production imo.

[Tony Cloninger]

Just do not ignore the defense....like they ignored the offense pretty much in 05-08.....and before you realize it...your offense sucks beacuse of injuries/bad later picks you do get or players who under-achieve.

It happened in the late 80's when they went all out on defense and kept drafting lineman really late in the draft....and think McNally would turn them to gold like he did Kozerski and Reimers and Montoya...who were drafted after the 5th-6th rounds. Before you know it...you have Kevin Sargent manning the LT and people like Ken Moyer and Scott Brumfield manning your G positions.