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Old 02-23-2010, 03:08 PM   #31
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How did I forget about Marty Cordova?
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Old 02-23-2010, 03:13 PM   #32
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Bobby Crosby should be on this list
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Old 02-23-2010, 03:30 PM   #33
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How can Eric Karros or Chris Sabo be considered "nothing special"?

Just my two cents.
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Old 02-23-2010, 03:32 PM   #34
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BTW... it is Todd Hollingsworth.
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Old 02-23-2010, 03:35 PM   #35
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BTW... it is Todd Hollingsworth.
Is that how Grande pronounced it?
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Old 02-23-2010, 04:48 PM   #36
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Sabo came up late and his rookie tear was his best, but 3300 MLB ab's and 114 HR's and 900 hits is pretty tidy career, put it this way he's getting the big pension.

And if anyone really wants to scratch what Reds players have juiced he's one of the guys I'd have to look at, based on his game, his quirky behavior and the time he played.
Yep. I'll throw out another name that'll surely derail this thread:

Barry Larkin, 1996.

As for RoYs, here they are:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/roy_rol.shtml

What strikes me is that the NL RoY had a very solid run 1981 - 1993. Jerome Walton in 1989 turned out to be a dud. Sabo's probably the 2nd weakest name in that stretch. Otherwise, all of the NL RoY winners from Valenzuela in 1981 to Piazza in 1993 all had very good to great careers.

Don't think I've seen Pat Listach mentioned, yet.
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Don't think I've seen Pat Listach mentioned, yet.
I thought I mentioned him in the first post. Maybe not though.
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Old 02-23-2010, 05:41 PM   #38
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Yep. I'll throw out another name that'll surely derail this thread:

Barry Larkin, 1996.

As for RoYs, here they are:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/roy_rol.shtml

What strikes me is that the NL RoY had a very solid run 1981 - 1993. Jerome Walton in 1989 turned out to be a dud. Sabo's probably the 2nd weakest name in that stretch. Otherwise, all of the NL RoY winners from Valenzuela in 1981 to Piazza in 1993 all had very good to great careers.

Don't think I've seen Pat Listach mentioned, yet.
What does Barry Larkin in 1996 have to do with ROYs?
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:02 PM   #39
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What does Barry Larkin in 1996 have to do with ROYs?
He's throwing his name out as a possible Reds steroid user.
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16 year career, 146 wins, 3,60 ERA, 2520 innings.

That's sounds like a very good career.
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:53 PM   #41
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I'm going Dontrelle Willis though I really wish he would get it together...can't help but like the guy... Geo Soto was a good one I hope...probably a good guy but he DOES play for the freakin' cubs.
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If it wasn't for Ryan Howard Willy Taveras would be dominating this thread.
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Old 02-24-2010, 02:37 AM   #43
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I'm confused.
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I'm confused.
Taveras finished second to Ryan Howard in NL Rookie of the Year voting in 2005.
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Old 02-24-2010, 02:53 AM   #45
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Thanks OBM, aint that a kick in the pants?
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