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[Kc61]

Originally Posted by Kingspoint

The schedule works out perfectly for the REDS to have a 4-man rotation until May 19th.

The first time a 5th starter is needed is April 14th.

The second time a 5th starter is needed is April 24th.

The third time a 5th starter is needed is May 4th.

The fourth time a 5th starter is needed is May 19th.

The fifth time a 5th starter is needed is May 24th.


That knowledge changes the whole dynamics of the Opening Day Roster. The REDS can have an extra bat (14 hitters and 10 pitchers), which is great.

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I'm sure you are correct, but I can't figure this out.

The Reds play from April 7 to April 18 with no off day. Won't they need a fifth starter twice in that period?

My quick look tells me they will need a fifth starter five times through May 11.

I'm probably missing something, please explain. Thanks.

[Kingspoint]

Originally Posted by Kc61

I'm sure you are correct, but I can't figure this out.

The Reds play from April 7 to April 18 with no off day. Won't they need a fifth starter twice in that period?

My quick look tells me they will need a fifth starter five times through May 11.

I'm probably missing something, please explain. Thanks.

That whole post I made is meaningless. I miscalculated it.

In the perfect scenario with no rainouts the 5th Starter would have 6 starts by May 22nd compared to 10 for the #1 (Arroyo), 10 for the #2 (Harang), 9 for the #3 (Cueto), and 8 for the #4, if I was trying to keep the "best" pitchers on 5 days rotations.

4/05 Arroyo
4/06 Off Day
4/07 Harang
4/08 Cueto
4/09 Bailey
4/10 Arroyo
4/11 5th Starter
4/12 Harang
4/13 Cueto
4/14 Bailey
4/15 Arroyo
4/16 5th Starter
4/17 Harang
4/18 Cueto
4/19 Off Day
4/20 Arroyo
4/21 Bailey
4/22 Harang
4/23 Cueto
4/24 5th Starter
4/25 Arroyo
4/26 Off Day
4/27 Harang
4/28 Cueto
4/29 Bailey
4/30 Arroyo
5/01 5th Starter
5/02 Harang
5/03 Cueto
5/04 Bailey
5/05 Arroyo
5/06 Off Day
5/07 Harang
5/08 Cueto
5/09 Bailey
5/10 Arroyo
5/11 5th Starter
5/12 Harang
5/13 Off Day
5/14 Cueto
5/15 Arroyo
5/16 Bailey
5/17 Harang
5/18 5th Starter
5/19 Cueto
5/20 Arroyo
5/21 Bailey
5/22 Harang
5/23 ....and so on...

Of course, 1 Rain Out and everything changes. Trying to predict any scenario is fruitless.

Guess we do need a 5th Starter right out of the gate. I'm guessing that the 5th Starter will be between who pitches best in Spring Training among Owings, Wood, Maloney and Lehr. I can't see anyone else even being considered. I'll put my hat in the Owings ring...that he'll pitch the best this Spring.

[mth123]

Originally Posted by Kingspoint

That whole post I made is meaningless. I miscalculated it.

In the perfect scenario with no rainouts the 5th Starter would have 6 starts by May 22nd compared to 10 for the #1 (Arroyo), 10 for the #2 (Harang), 9 for the #3 (Cueto), and 8 for the #4, if I was trying to keep the "best" pitchers on 5 days rotations.

4/05 Arroyo
4/06 Off Day
4/07 Harang
4/08 Cueto
4/09 Bailey
4/10 Arroyo
4/11 5th Starter
4/12 Harang
4/13 Cueto
4/14 Bailey
4/15 Arroyo
4/16 5th Starter
4/17 Harang
4/18 Cueto
4/19 Off Day
4/20 Arroyo
4/21 Bailey
4/22 Harang
4/23 Cueto
4/24 5th Starter
4/25 Arroyo
4/26 Off Day
4/27 Harang
4/28 Cueto
4/29 Bailey
4/30 Arroyo
5/01 5th Starter
5/02 Harang
5/03 Cueto
5/04 Bailey
5/05 Arroyo
5/06 Off Day
5/07 Harang
5/08 Cueto
5/09 Bailey
5/10 Arroyo
5/11 5th Starter
5/12 Harang
5/13 Off Day
5/14 Cueto
5/15 Arroyo
5/16 Bailey
5/17 Harang
5/18 5th Starter
5/19 Cueto
5/20 Arroyo
5/21 Bailey
5/22 Harang
5/23 ....and so on...

Of course, 1 Rain Out and everything changes. Trying to predict any scenario is fruitless.

Guess we do need a 5th Starter right out of the gate. I'm guessing that the 5th Starter will be between who pitches best in Spring Training among Owings, Wood, Maloney and Lehr. I can't see anyone else even being considered. I'll put my hat in the Owings ring...that he'll pitch the best this Spring.

Kip Wells? Mike Lincoln:ughmamoru? Personally, I think Maloney and Wells should be the only candidates. They are just holding the spot until Chapman has put in enough time to keep his contract from escalating.

Not only do I think Owings should be in the pen, I can actually see him becoming a pretty solid middle reliever down there. Maybe a guy in the mix for the 7th inning in a close game.

[Kingspoint]

Originally Posted by mth123

Kip Wells? Mike Lincoln:ughmamoru? Personally, I think Maloney and Wells should be the only candidates. They are just holding the spot until Chapman has put in enough time to keep his contract from escalating.

Not only do I think Owings should be in the pen, I can actually see him becoming a pretty solid middle reliever down there. Maybe a guy in the mix for the 7th inning in a close game.

I think Wells' career has been over for some time. Every time he pitches is a bad day for the REDS. I certainly hope he doesn't take up a roster spot at any level.

[camisadelgolf]

Originally Posted by Kingspoint

I think Wells' career has been over for some time. Every time he pitches is a bad day for the REDS. I certainly hope he doesn't take up a roster spot at any level.

Hyperbole much?

Just for measure, the Reds were 5-5 in games in which he pitched (and that was with horrible run support). I'm not too impressed by the guy either, but to say he's a waste of a roster spot at any level might be a bit of a stretch. Even if he were, Jocketty has shown that he's willing to part with veteran minor leaguers in favor of younger players (Scott Sauerbeck, Jon Adkins, Aaron Fultz, Ron Flores, Adam Pettyjohn, Camilo Vazquez, Jeff Kennard, Justin Lehr, Tom Shearn, Jim Brower . . . ). Granted, a couple of those guys have been re-signed, but I don't they'll pitch in the organization much longer. Besides, which AA pitchers do you see them blocking?

[Edd Roush]

What are the odds that Satterwhite makes Dayton's roster? Also what are the odds that he starts in the outfield for Dayton?