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Old 04-27-2010, 11:04 PM   #166
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Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

I wonder how Stubb's speed will affect his UZR? He seems to make tough plays look very easy. On many plays that probably aren't in most CF's zone, he is camping under, waiting to fall into his glove. Have to think that the guys who judge him, will miss a few.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:08 PM   #167
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So this is what a ho-hum, no drama win looks like? I think I like it!
This is the Reds biggest scoring differential in a win right?
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:09 PM   #168
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Re: 4/27/10 Reds deep in the heart of Texas (Astros)

Glad they won tonight....Roy (Owns Us) Oswalt tommorow. If we can steal one from him, I think we can get to .500 before sweeping the Cards this weekend.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:09 PM   #169
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I wonder how Stubb's speed will affect his UZR? He seems to make tough plays look very easy. On many plays that probably aren't in most CF's zone, he is camping under, waiting to fall into his glove. Have to think that the guys who judge him, will miss a few.
I'm pretty sure that issue is not possible unless you are suggesting that the balls will be placed in the incorrect zone. It should be pretty easy to determine where the ball was caught irrespective of the fielder's position. At that point, it's just math. Really, that's the advantage of a system like UZR -- removing the subjectivity.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:10 PM   #170
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Glad they won tonight....Roy (Owns Us) Oswalt tommorow. If we can steal one from him, I think we can get to .500 before sweeping the Cards this weekend.
Paulino's tomorrow night versus Leake. Oswalt's matched up with Arroyo on thursday
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:11 PM   #171
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Roy pitches on Thursday. Paulino is tomorrow (according to Chris Welsh anyway).

I was terrified to post here tonight for fear that I would jinx the guys but I'll happily post something now that they got the win, LOL Great job by the guys tonight and I hope this is the start of a great road trip for them. WOOT!
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:13 PM   #172
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I hope this start gets Harang going in the right direction.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:26 PM   #173
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I'm pretty sure that issue is not possible unless you are suggesting that the balls will be placed in the incorrect zone. It should be pretty easy to determine where the ball was caught irrespective of the fielder's position. At that point, it's just math. Really, that's the advantage of a system like UZR -- removing the subjectivity.
Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. I did not know how it was done.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:30 PM   #174
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I wish we could play the Astros every day. *sigh*

I guess Aaron has bought himself a few more starts...I hope he builds on this one.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:34 PM   #175
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I'd love to see more games like this.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:41 PM   #176
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Drew Stubbs 8
Brandon Phillips 4
Joey Votto 3
Scott Rolen 5
Jay Bruce 9
Orlando Cabrera 6
Jonny Gomes 7
Ryan Hanigan 2
Aaron Harang RHP

A little different look. Believe it or not, Phillips did not hit second at all last year. The other thing to note: This is Hanigan’s eighth start. Ramon Hernandez has 12. Hanigan started the year playing only one out of five days.
I got to hand it to Dusty, he found a lineup I like about the only thing you could try to change is Drew but who do you put there? Hopefully he gives it a few days use. Get Brandon to go back to using the alleys rather than trying to kill everything and get Stubbs timing down with more fastballs. And with Gomes struggling still I like Cabrera in front of him (neither ideal but Cabrera has taken advantage of RBI opportunities). We shall see what tomorrow brings but tonight to Dusty.

My only question (not a complaint) why Cordero tonight when the tv guys said Rhodes was already warmed up?
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:59 PM   #177
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nice win from the team & especially nice to see Harang pitch well. i thought Dusty was smart to remove him after 6 IP & ~100 pitches. he gets a win & a nice confidence boost.

this was the type of game i thought we would see all season. good pitching. nice defense (except for yet another 'hit' past Cabrera) & the offense piecing together a few runs.

this was for me the most enjoyable game i have watched all season.
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:22 AM   #178
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Liked the lineup.

Liked the overall result even moreso.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:26 PM   #179
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I'm pretty sure that issue is not possible unless you are suggesting that the balls will be placed in the incorrect zone. It should be pretty easy to determine where the ball was caught irrespective of the fielder's position. At that point, it's just math. Really, that's the advantage of a system like UZR -- removing the subjectivity.
You're obviously correct that it's a matter of placing it in the correct zone, but I feel there is some subjectivity to that. With enough slices splitting the outfield, and gauging depth, I can see there being some tough calls as to which zone a catch is awarded to in some situations.

Make no mistake, I think UZR is actually a pretty reliable tool with enough of a sample. But I wouldn't say there's no subjectivity to it.
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:45 PM   #180
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I hope Dusty keeps Votto, Rolen and Bruce in the middle of the lineup.

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