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Vottomatic · 07-07-2010, 10:21 PM

His last 10 outings:

10.2 innings, 7 hits, 1 earned run, 6 walks, 9 K's.
Opponents are batting .197 against him.
His ERA is down to 3.48.

It appears that if he can get his walks down that he's putting things together.

Let's hope.

Joseph · 07-07-2010, 10:47 PM

At the game tonight. He struck out a pair and got a fly out [IIRC]. He looked really sharp....unlike a certain Cuban import.

fearofpopvol1 · 07-08-2010, 02:02 AM

I would not be surprised at some point to see him back up in Cincy taking the place of an injured arm or Jordan Smith.

bellhead · 07-08-2010, 08:47 AM

Getting him back to the form of two years ago would go a long way to us winning the division. The guy we need to get back on track is Herrera now. That situational lefty.

Mario-Rijo · 07-08-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1

I would not be surprised at some point to see him back up in Cincy taking the place of an injured arm or Jordan Smith.

JMO but I think I'd rather have Jordan Smith on the roster than Ondrusek. Yeah Ondrusek has looked much better as of late but Smith has really looked just as good with better control from what I have seen.

On Herrera, not sure you can get him back on track I think people are on to him now and unless he finds a couple more MPH not sure he will ever get close to how he looked last season.

Joseph · 07-08-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo

JMO but I think I'd rather have Jordan Smith on the roster than Ondrusek. Yeah Ondrusek has looked much better as of late but Smith has really looked just as good with better control from what I have seen.

On Herrera, not sure you can get him back on track I think people are on to him now and unless he finds a couple more MPH not sure he will ever get close to how he looked last season.

I think the problem with Herera is exactly the opposite. His screwball is coming in around 75 MPH. With his FB sitting at 81,83 there just isn't the velocity difference there once was. He needs to figure out how to take MPH OFF his screwball and get it back into the 60's like it initially was.

RedsManRick · 07-08-2010, 06:26 PM

Regarding Herrera, I think the problem boils down to control. His BB/9 is better this year, but I think that's because he's getting hit instead. Some guys can get away with the occasional mistake. Not Herrera. His stuff is so slow that it's virtually impossible for him to get away with mistakes.

He gets guys out by have them jump at his stuff. But guys have learned to just wait for something in the zone and that they can react to it.

RED VAN HOT · 07-08-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph

At the game tonight. He struck out a pair and got a fly out [IIRC]. He looked really sharp....unlike a certain Cuban import.

What was his velocity? IIRC, there was some concern about it on RZ.

Mario-Rijo · 07-09-2010, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT

What was his velocity? IIRC, there was some concern about it on RZ.

I've seen him throw up to 85 for sure and I think maybe an 86er in there a few times (in the past, not sure where he is sitting currently). But as RMR said guys are just sitting and waiting on slow stuff and that's about all he has got. He might be able to slow down his scroogie a bit and that may help but until he does something to space out those MPH's he isn't gonna be effective. Problem is he barely gets those pitches up to the plate at that speed as is, which costs him alot of low pitches (even some strikes) being called balls.

sabometrics · 07-09-2010, 07:20 PM

I think Red Van Hot was asking about Burton's velocity, not Herrera.

07-07-2010, 10:21 PM	#1
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,847	Jared Burton His last 10 outings: 10.2 innings, 7 hits, 1 earned run, 6 walks, 9 K's. Opponents are batting .197 against him. His ERA is down to 3.48. It appears that if he can get his walks down that he's putting things together. Let's hope. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

07-07-2010, 10:47 PM	#2
Joseph Tired of talk. Win! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,127	Re: Jared Burton At the game tonight. He struck out a pair and got a fly out [IIRC]. He looked really sharp....unlike a certain Cuban import. __________________ Championships for MY teams in my lifetime: Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90 Chicago Blackhawks - 10 University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12 Cincinnati Bengals - None Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98

07-08-2010, 02:02 AM	#3
fearofpopvol1 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 8,634	Re: Jared Burton I would not be surprised at some point to see him back up in Cincy taking the place of an injured arm or Jordan Smith.

07-08-2010, 08:47 AM	#4
bellhead Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 560	Re: Jared Burton Getting him back to the form of two years ago would go a long way to us winning the division. The guy we need to get back on track is Herrera now. That situational lefty.

07-08-2010, 06:26 PM	#7
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,921	Re: Jared Burton Regarding Herrera, I think the problem boils down to control. His BB/9 is better this year, but I think that's because he's getting hit instead. Some guys can get away with the occasional mistake. Not Herrera. His stuff is so slow that it's virtually impossible for him to get away with mistakes. He gets guys out by have them jump at his stuff. But guys have learned to just wait for something in the zone and that they can react to it. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance. Last edited by RedsManRick; 07-08-2010 at 06:29 PM.

07-09-2010, 07:20 PM	#10
sabometrics Formerly Farsighted Fan Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Edgewood, KY Posts: 605	Re: Jared Burton I think Red Van Hot was asking about Burton's velocity, not Herrera. __________________ "He looked like a surfer kid from SoCal," manager Dusty Baker says. "He didn't say much, but you could tell he was cool."

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