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Brutus · 07-28-2010, 05:31 PM

I think it's time to start considering this possibility for Joey Votto.

He's got a .322 batting average. In real time, that is tied for the league lead with Rafael Furcal.

He leads the league in homers by two, with 26, over Prince and Mark Reynolds.

He now has 70 RBIs, tied for second with Albert Pujols and the now injured Corey Hart. He's 11 behind the leader Ryan Howard.

If he can get hot and start knocking in runs, this is a real, honest-to-goodness triple-crown chase.

11larkin11 · 07-28-2010, 05:34 PM

Mainly for Joey, but we'll keep track of former Red Josh Hamilton and Miggy as well.

As of 5:30 ET 7/28/10 (Reds game over, Tiger/Rangers yet to play).

NL

Joey Votto
RBI: 70 (T-2nd)
---Leader Howard 81
HR: 26 (1st)
---2nd-Fielder/Reynolds 24
AVG: .322 (T-1st)
---T-1st Furcal .322

AL

Josh Hamilton
RBI: 74 (6th)
---Leader Cabrera 88
HR: 23 (3rd)
---Leader Bautista 30
AVG: .358 (1st)
---2nd Cabrera .349

Miguel Cabrera
RBI: 88 (1st)
---2nd A-Rod 81
HR: 24 (2nd)
---Leader Bautista 30
AVG: .349 (2nd)
---Leader Hamilton .358

REDblooded · 07-28-2010, 06:54 PM

Josh Hamilton? Why would we talk about him here? This board only misses Adam Dunn...

Rojo · 07-28-2010, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

If he can get hot and start knocking in runs, this is a real, honest-to-goodness triple-crown chase.

Of if someone ahead of him gets hot.

Tornon · 07-28-2010, 08:16 PM

I have a tough time seeing Joey winning the RBI crown.. Our #1/#2 hitters don't seem to get on as much as Philly's #1/#2/#3 hitters

dougdirt · 07-28-2010, 08:17 PM

I just don't see it for Votto. Tough for him to get the RBI title with a combined .315 OBP (honestly just guessed here) from the two guys in front of him.

Cyclone792 · 07-28-2010, 08:36 PM

For Votto to lead the league in RBIs, Phillips will have to continue having a solid year and Orlando Cabrera will have to morph into Barry Larkin. That's the flaw with RBIs, but we've known that for 20 years. Still, it's fun to follow nonetheless.

Now the NL MVP, well, that's Votto right now, IMO.

11larkin11 · 07-28-2010, 08:42 PM

But, the Reds 8 and 9 hitters are WAY better at getting on base than other teams in the league.

Ghosts of 1990 · 07-28-2010, 08:54 PM

I think Votto wins the batting crown (all I care about him winning) wins the home run title, and falls about 15 RBI short of Howard due to O-Cab hitting 2nd

Brutus · 07-28-2010, 09:08 PM

Werth could still be traded and Victorino just made a trip to the DL. There's a chance Howard's RBI opportunities may be fewer and further between down the stretch.

Tornon · 07-28-2010, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

Werth could still be traded and Victorino just made a trip to the DL. There's a chance Howard's RBI opportunities may be fewer and further between down the stretch.

Werth usually bats behind Howard though, doesn't he? And Rollins has been down, you have to figure he'll get hot somewhat and Utley will be coming back eventually.. I just don't like the feel of it for Joey

Brutus · 07-28-2010, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornon

Werth usually bats behind Howard though, doesn't he? And Rollins has been down, you have to figure he'll get hot somewhat and Utley will be coming back eventually.. I just don't like the feel of it for Joey

Yes he does, but my point is that it's a lot easier to pitch to Howard when you still have to contend with Werth. If he gets traded, a lot of teams will start pitching around Howard.

Homer Bailey · 07-29-2010, 02:03 PM

Not trying to turn this into a Volquez/Hamilton debate, but my buddy texted me this today, and it's the first time I've really thought about this.

Imagine this lineup:

Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Hamilton LF
Stubbs CF
Hanigan/Hernandez C
Cabrera SS
Pitcher

All at least average bats (other than OC), and many WELL above average. All at least average defenders, and many WELL above average. What a sick lineup that would be.

(Again, please don't make this about the trade. Just dream for a second).

BCubb2003 · 07-29-2010, 08:43 PM

This is an impressive sight:

http://twitpic.com/29s726

Maybe he's going for the Quintuple Crown. If we can only do something about that team-dependent stat.

VR · 07-29-2010, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer Bailey

Not trying to turn this into a Volquez/Hamilton debate, but my buddy texted me this today, and it's the first time I've really thought about this.

Imagine this lineup:

Phillips 2B
Bruce RF
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Hamilton LF
Stubbs CF
Hanigan/Hernandez C
Cabrera SS
Pitcher

All at least average bats (other than OC), and many WELL above average. All at least average defenders, and many WELL above average. What a sick lineup that would be.

(Again, please don't make this about the trade. Just dream for a second).

It's been floated on here for about 2 months now. It makes so much sense....not sure if Dusty has it in him to drop OCab to #8 for a 'kid'

07-28-2010, 08:16 PM	#5
Tornon Who, What, Where, When? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,531	Re: AL/NL Triple Crown Watch I have a tough time seeing Joey winning the RBI crown.. Our #1/#2 hitters don't seem to get on as much as Philly's #1/#2/#3 hitters

07-28-2010, 08:17 PM	#6
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,696	Re: AL/NL Triple Crown Watch I just don't see it for Votto. Tough for him to get the RBI title with a combined .315 OBP (honestly just guessed here) from the two guys in front of him. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

07-28-2010, 08:36 PM	#7
Cyclone792 Playoffs Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 6,233	Re: AL/NL Triple Crown Watch For Votto to lead the league in RBIs, Phillips will have to continue having a solid year and Orlando Cabrera will have to morph into Barry Larkin. That's the flaw with RBIs, but we've known that for 20 years. Still, it's fun to follow nonetheless. Now the NL MVP, well, that's Votto right now, IMO. __________________ *Barry Larkin - HOF, 2012* *Put an end to the Lost Decade.*

07-28-2010, 08:54 PM	#9
Ghosts of 1990 The Future is Now Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 3,884	Re: AL/NL Triple Crown Watch I think Votto wins the batting crown (all I care about him winning) wins the home run title, and falls about 15 RBI short of Howard due to O-Cab hitting 2nd __________________ 2009 Attendance Record: 3-5 2010 Attendance Record: 2-9 2011 Attendance Record: 3-4 2012 Attendance Record: 3-4 2013 Attendance Record: 1-1

07-28-2010, 09:08 PM	#10
Brutus Et tu, Brutus? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 8,928	Re: AL/NL Triple Crown Watch Werth could still be traded and Victorino just made a trip to the DL. There's a chance Howard's RBI opportunities may be fewer and further between down the stretch. __________________ "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

07-28-2010, 05:31 PM	#1
Brutus Et tu, Brutus? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 8,928	Triple Crown: 2010 I think it's time to start considering this possibility for Joey Votto. He's got a .322 batting average. In real time, that is tied for the league lead with Rafael Furcal. He leads the league in homers by two, with 26, over Prince and Mark Reynolds. He now has 70 RBIs, tied for second with Albert Pujols and the now injured Corey Hart. He's 11 behind the leader Ryan Howard. If he can get hot and start knocking in runs, this is a real, honest-to-goodness triple-crown chase. __________________ "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

07-28-2010, 05:34 PM	#2
11larkin11 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bellefontaine,OH Posts: 2,287	AL/NL Triple Crown Watch Mainly for Joey, but we'll keep track of former Red Josh Hamilton and Miggy as well. As of 5:30 ET 7/28/10 (Reds game over, Tiger/Rangers yet to play). NL *Joey Votto* RBI: 70 (T-2nd) ---Leader Howard 81 HR: 26 (1st) ---2nd-Fielder/Reynolds 24 AVG: .322 (T-1st) ---T-1st Furcal .322 AL *Josh Hamilton* RBI: 74 (6th) ---Leader Cabrera 88 HR: 23 (3rd) ---Leader Bautista 30 AVG: .358 (1st) ---2nd Cabrera .349 *Miguel Cabrera* RBI: 88 (1st) ---2nd A-Rod 81 HR: 24 (2nd) ---Leader Bautista 30 AVG: .349 (2nd) ---Leader Hamilton .358 __________________ Domo Arigato, Here Comes Joey Votto ---TRF "I do what I want to do and say what I want to say." --Bronson Arroyo Last edited by 11larkin11; 07-28-2010 at 05:40 PM.

07-28-2010, 06:54 PM	#3
REDblooded Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,126	Re: AL/NL Triple Crown Watch Josh Hamilton? Why would we talk about him here? This board only misses Adam Dunn... __________________ 2010 Mock Draft Selections (picking for Rays) Bryce Brentz Brandon Workman Kris Bryant Matt Lipka Rick Hague

07-28-2010, 08:42 PM	#8
11larkin11 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bellefontaine,OH Posts: 2,287	Re: AL/NL Triple Crown Watch But, the Reds 8 and 9 hitters are WAY better at getting on base than other teams in the league. __________________ Domo Arigato, Here Comes Joey Votto ---TRF "I do what I want to do and say what I want to say." --Bronson Arroyo

07-29-2010, 02:03 PM	#13
Homer Bailey I'm back... and forth Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,604	Re: AL/NL Triple Crown Watch Not trying to turn this into a Volquez/Hamilton debate, but my buddy texted me this today, and it's the first time I've really thought about this. Imagine this lineup: Phillips 2B Bruce RF Votto 1B Rolen 3B Hamilton LF Stubbs CF Hanigan/Hernandez C Cabrera SS Pitcher All at least average bats (other than OC), and many WELL above average. All at least average defenders, and many WELL above average. What a sick lineup that would be. (Again, please don't make this about the trade. Just dream for a second).

07-29-2010, 08:43 PM	#14
BCubb2003 Haunted by walks Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Syracuse Posts: 6,301	Re: AL/NL Triple Crown Watch This is an impressive sight: http://twitpic.com/29s726 Maybe he's going for the Quintuple Crown. If we can only do something about that team-dependent stat.

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