Bengals 2010 pt. I

[davereds24]

Mike has really made a 180 lately, I guess getting up there in age he really wants to win. Now the team just has to survive camp without serious injuries.

[Tony Cloninger]

They still need pass blocking OL.....only Whitworth, to me...seems capable of doing that on an OK basis.

[bucksfan2]

Originally Posted by davereds24

Mike has really made a 180 lately, I guess getting up there in age he really wants to win. Now the team just has to survive camp without serious injuries.

I firmly believe that the NFL gave Mike an edict to change the way he ran the organization or change were going to be made. I think shortly after that Marvin was hired and the limited scouting department was increased. I also don't think you can underscore the impact on scouting that technology has made. It has made it feasible to scout with a much smaller scouting department.

That said I also think a couple of years of sold out tickets have made an impact on Mike. It is a lot nicer when you start the season with all the money in your pocket by mid June. I think Mike got used to that and wants that to happen again.

[Cedric]

Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger

They still need pass blocking OL.....only Whitworth, to me...seems capable of doing that on an OK basis.

They won't truly be great unless some miracle happens up front. Their OL is weak still.

[GIDP]

I also think he hired a good coach for the first time in his life.

[Yachtzee]

Originally Posted by bucksfan2

I firmly believe that the NFL gave Mike an edict to change the way he ran the organization or change were going to be made. I think shortly after that Marvin was hired and the limited scouting department was increased. I also don't think you can underscore the impact on scouting that technology has made. It has made it feasible to scout with a much smaller scouting department.

That said I also think a couple of years of sold out tickets have made an impact on Mike. It is a lot nicer when you start the season with all the money in your pocket by mid June. I think Mike got used to that and wants that to happen again.

I don't think so. If thay were the case, the NFL would have stepped in and done something about the Lions, Raiders, Rams, Cards, and Saints at one point or another. The Bengals may have had a historically bad run through the 90s and early 2000s, but not any worse than what those other teams have had. At least Brown never hired a TV commentator to run his team. I think the only time the NFL has put pressure on Brown to do something is put in field turf when the grass at PBS wouldn't take root.

[Cedric]

Originally Posted by Yachtzee

I don't think so. If thay were the case, the NFL would have stepped in and done something about the Lions, Raiders, Rams, Cards, and Saints at one point or another. The Bengals may have had a historically bad run through the 90s and early 2000s, but not any worse than what those other teams have had. At least Brown never hired a TV commentator to run his team. I think the only time the NFL has put pressure on Brown to do something is put in field turf when the grass at PBS wouldn't take root.

TV commentator looks like Vince Lombardi compared to Dave Shula.

Dave Shula being hired as a head coach has to be the worst coaching hire in sports history.

[Yachtzee]

Originally Posted by Cedric

TV commentator looks like Vince Lombardi compared to Dave Shula.

Dave Shula being hired as a head coach has to be the worst coaching hire in sports history.

At least Shula never went 0-16. The worst move from that time was dumping Esiason for Klingler. Ripped the heart right out of the team.

[davereds24]

Originally Posted by bucksfan2

I firmly believe that the NFL gave Mike an edict to change the way he ran the organization or change were going to be made. I think shortly after that Marvin was hired and the limited scouting department was increased. I also don't think you can underscore the impact on scouting that technology has made. It has made it feasible to scout with a much smaller scouting department.

That said I also think a couple of years of sold out tickets have made an impact on Mike. It is a lot nicer when you start the season with all the money in your pocket by mid June. I think Mike got used to that and wants that to happen again.

The NFL does not need the Bengals to be good, actually they would rather the division every year I'm sure.

Also, they haven't sold out early. Last year was the worst ticket sales year since 2003 I believe. They had to get bailed out 6 or 7 of the 8 home games to avoid blackout.

I do agree Marvin has had a big impact.

[BringDownMugabe]

Embarrassing. Well, so much for improving that weak offensive line. Injury to any of the starters, and the Bengals are in trouble.

[CTA513]

Originally Posted by BringDownMugabe

Embarrassing. Well, so much for improving that weak offensive line. Injury to any of the starters, and the Bengals are in trouble.

I bet Bobbie Williams probably weighs about as much if not more than Smith.
Though Smith does need to lose about 30-40 pounds due to him playing RT.

[BringDownMugabe]

Originally Posted by CTA513

I bet Bobbie Williams probably weighs about as much if not more than Smith.
Though Smith does need to lose about 30-40 pounds due to him playing RT.

That, and Bobbie Williams is a veteran and you know what you're going to get. Andre Smith had weight issues coming out of college, signed a incentive-based weight loss NFL contract, missed most of his rookie year (which can be attributed to his poor conditioning), and is now on the PUP this preseason because he reported to camp out of shape...again.

I know O-Lineman aren't going to win any modeling contests, but that picture is all I needed to see.

[GIDP]

Originally Posted by BringDownMugabe

Embarrassing. Well, so much for improving that weak offensive line. Injury to any of the starters, and the Bengals are in trouble.

I dont know why these photos are embarrassing.

[texasdave]

Looks like he has his eye on the NFL's biggest bust Hall of Shame.

[Slyder]

Originally Posted by texasdave

Looks like he has his eye on the NFL's biggest bust Hall of Shame.

He's got a LOOOOOTTTT of work to do if he's even going to approach JaWalrus.