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texasdave · 08-29-2010, 10:48 PM

The N.L. hasn't seen a Triple Crown winner since 1937. As the season heads into September there are three legitimate candidates. This is crazy.
Any of the three get hot in the last month and they could end up making history.

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PLAYER	        AVE	RBI	HR
Votto	     .325-2nd	93-2nd	32-2nd
Pujols	     .320-3rd	95-1st	35-1st
Gonzalz	     .326-1st	90-3rd	29-4th

GIDP · 08-29-2010, 11:10 PM

I wonder if 3 players have ever finished top 3 in all 3 categories in a single season?

MikeThierry · 08-30-2010, 04:11 AM

The thing that is shocking to me is Gonzalez's home/road splits. He is batting .380 at home but is batting only .267 on the road. I think this will have some effect on his standing for triple crown towards the end of the year. I read a ridiculous article written by a person at ESPN where he said he would take Gonzalez over Pujols and Votto. With Pujols and Votto, at least you get consistent great play for them no matter what ball park they play in.

gmt · 08-30-2010, 03:02 PM

Imagine Pujols and Votto playing half their games at Coors Field. Barry Bonds "record" would be toast already.

R_Webb18 · 08-30-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gmt

Imagine Pujols and Votto playing half their games at Coors Field. Barry Bonds "record" would be toast already.

votto plays in a homerun park.

gmt · 08-30-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by R_Webb18

votto plays in a homerun park.

There is no "homerun park" like the launching pad at Coors.

sivman17 · 08-30-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gmt

There is no "homerun park" like the launching pad at Coors.

True statement.

Coors is 1st in the ML in runs given up, and 3rd in HRs.
GABP is 8th in runs, 6th in HRs.

Yankee Stadium yields the most, followed by U.S. Cellular.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor/_/sort/HRFactor

Although in 2009 GABP was more of a HR park than Coors

scott91575 · 08-30-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gmt

There is no "homerun park" like the launching pad at Coors.

Coors is no longer the top home run park since the humidor (GABP gives up more HR's per game). It's about 9th this year in HR/game.

Coors is still a hitters park due to it's dimensions though. Just too much outfield to cover, and the ball still flies more there than most parks.

winks · 08-30-2010, 04:19 PM

The thing I see most with Votto (the clear MVP choice) is the HR. he doesnt try to hit HRs. He's trying to get a hit, to drive the ball, if it goes out it goes out. I dont watch the other 2 enough to see what they do, but Votto doesnt seem to try and hit HRs. He just does sometimes. So if he comes up short in a category it will be HRs. But thats fine with me.

gmt · 08-30-2010, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winks

The thing I see most with Votto (the clear MVP choice) is the HR. he doesnt try to hit HRs. He's trying to get a hit, to drive the ball, if it goes out it goes out. I dont watch the other 2 enough to see what they do, but Votto doesnt seem to try and hit HRs. He just does sometimes. So if he comes up short in a category it will be HRs. But thats fine with me.

I don't know anything about Gonzales. Pujols doesn't really look to hit hr's. He hits it hard and they go out, mostly as line drives. McGwire was the home run hitters swing. High towering blasts. Look at the batting averages of the sluggers. Generally, high average with HR's means they are good hitters whose batted balls find themselves clearing the fence often.

RedsLvr · 08-30-2010, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winks

The thing I see most with Votto (the clear MVP choice) is the HR. he doesnt try to hit HRs. He's trying to get a hit, to drive the ball, if it goes out it goes out. I dont watch the other 2 enough to see what they do, but Votto doesnt seem to try and hit HRs. He just does sometimes. So if he comes up short in a category it will be HRs. But thats fine with me.

Nah, it's likely Votto is going to be way short in BA.

Vottomatic · 08-30-2010, 05:34 PM

Let's headhunt Pujols this weekend, and knock him out of the triple crown race.

JUST KIDDING.

Natty Redlocks · 08-30-2010, 05:45 PM

I'd love to see Votto do it. But Pujols is the better player, and if anyone does it, it probably will be him.

sivman17 · 08-30-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Natty Redlocks

Pujols is the better player

nah

RedsLvr · 08-30-2010, 05:52 PM

No one in the NL is even close to the triple crown...

08-29-2010, 10:48 PM	#1
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,527	Triple Crown Trio The N.L. hasn't seen a Triple Crown winner since 1937. As the season heads into September there are three legitimate candidates. This is crazy. Any of the three get hot in the last month and they could end up making history. Code: PLAYER AVE RBI HR Votto .325-2nd 93-2nd 32-2nd Pujols .320-3rd 95-1st 35-1st Gonzalz .326-1st 90-3rd 29-4th __________________ Let's hang a Championship Banner this year!!!!!

08-29-2010, 11:10 PM	#2
GIDP Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,419	Re: Triple Crown Trio I wonder if 3 players have ever finished top 3 in all 3 categories in a single season?

08-30-2010, 04:11 AM	#3
MikeThierry Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: St. Louis, Mo Posts: 3,108	Re: Triple Crown Trio The thing that is shocking to me is Gonzalez's home/road splits. He is batting .380 at home but is batting only .267 on the road. I think this will have some effect on his standing for triple crown towards the end of the year. I read a ridiculous article written by a person at ESPN where he said he would take Gonzalez over Pujols and Votto. With Pujols and Votto, at least you get consistent great play for them no matter what ball park they play in.

08-30-2010, 03:02 PM	#4
gmt Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 92	Re: Triple Crown Trio Imagine Pujols and Votto playing half their games at Coors Field. Barry Bonds "record" would be toast already.

08-30-2010, 04:19 PM	#9
winks Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Crooksville OH Posts: 42	Re: Triple Crown Trio The thing I see most with Votto (the clear MVP choice) is the HR. he doesnt try to hit HRs. He's trying to get a hit, to drive the ball, if it goes out it goes out. I dont watch the other 2 enough to see what they do, but Votto doesnt seem to try and hit HRs. He just does sometimes. So if he comes up short in a category it will be HRs. But thats fine with me.

08-30-2010, 05:34 PM	#12
Vottomatic All work and no play..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lebanon Posts: 6,725	Re: Triple Crown Trio Let's headhunt Pujols this weekend, and knock him out of the triple crown race. JUST KIDDING. __________________ "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic. "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

08-30-2010, 05:45 PM	#13
Natty Redlocks Recovering Cubs Fan Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 710	Re: Triple Crown Trio I'd love to see Votto do it. But Pujols is the better player, and if anyone does it, it probably will be him. __________________ FIRE DUSTY Never mind. The man is clearly a genius.

08-30-2010, 05:52 PM	#15
RedsLvr Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 171	Re: Triple Crown Trio No one in the NL is even close to the triple crown...

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