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Brutus · 09-05-2010, 03:39 PM

I figured since the Part 2 scoreboard thread seemingly ran its course, we'd go to Part 3 - September edition. If that's OK with the mods.

Currently, the Braves and Marlins are tied at 6 apiece going into the bottom of the Marlins' 9th.

Milwaukee leads 5-2 over the Phillies in the bottom of the 6th.

San Diego, on a 9-game losing streak, plays Colorado this afternoon.

Reds currently have homefield advantage for the playoffs a game ahead of Atlanta and 2 1/2 over San Diego.

11larkin11 · 09-05-2010, 03:40 PM

If we're going to maintain homefield advantage, I hope Philly overtakes Atlanta in the East.

Brutus · 09-05-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 11larkin11

If we're going to maintain homefield advantage, I hope Philly overtakes Atlanta in the East.

Agreed. As of now, it would be Cincinnati vs. Philadelphia and Atlanta vs. San Diego. Of course, there's still a chance the West could get the wildcard, so hopefully Philadelphia simply goes on a losing streak.

Brutus · 09-05-2010, 04:01 PM

Marlins knock off the Braves in the bottom of the 9th with a walk-off single.

Tony Cloninger · 09-05-2010, 04:14 PM

One team I do not understand how they keep winning...is the Yankees. Burnett is garbage. They have someone named Nova starting...and while I rail on their ability to buy a pennant last year..... they are able to get Marcus Thames? To hit the way he has for them. All of a sudden Woods is pitching lights out (he is still walking people)..... even with Jeter hitting like Paul janish...they still win.

Brutus · 09-05-2010, 04:43 PM

Brew crew leads 6-2 heading to the bottom of 9 in Philadelphia

aubashbrother · 09-05-2010, 04:50 PM

After todays game It made yesterdays win sooo much bigger. Go in with 8 game lead and come out with 7 game lead facing the pitchers we faced. Ill take it

Brutus · 09-05-2010, 04:53 PM

Brewers win. The Braves, Reds and Phillies all falter today.

OnBaseMachine · 09-05-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aubashbrother

After todays game It made yesterdays win sooo much bigger. Go in with 8 game lead and come out with 7 game lead facing the pitchers we faced. Ill take it

I'm glad they were able to win one but the Reds should have won today too. Jon freaking Jay. Jon Jay. All you have to do is get him out in the 6th inning and that three run inning doesn't happen. The Reds had a chance to end the Cardinals season today but failed to do so. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to have a seven game lead 26 to go. But that game was very winnable today.

I can't stand Chris Carpenter, but he owns the Reds.

Brutus · 09-05-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine

I'm glad they were able to win one but the Reds should have won today too. Jon freaking Jay. Jon Jay. All you have to do is get him out in the 6th inning and that three run inning doesn't happen. The Reds had a chance to end the Cardinals season today but failed to do so. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to have a seven game lead 26 to go. But that game was very winnable today.

I can't stand Chris Carpenter, but he owns the Reds.

OBM, Jay is a .300 hitter. He's a major league hitter hitting .300... let's not act like it was pitcher that was 5-for-his-10-year-career up there that doubled.

Jay is a good young hitter with good bat control, a good eye and hits the ball pretty well. He's not a power hitter, but there are far worse things than surrendering a hit to him.

Kc61 · 09-05-2010, 05:02 PM

As I said in the game thread - in advance of the spot - you cannot leave Homer Bailey in to face Pujols or Holliday in a tight sixth inning spot.

He often falters in the middle innings at this stage of his career.

Had Dusty brought Masset in to face Pujols or Holliday there, the Reds likely win the game.

You have to know your pitchers. Let Homer develop some other time.

Jay, Pujols, Holliday were facing Homer for the third time in the game. Pitch count was irrelevant. The Cards have very few dangerous hitters, you treat them like dangerous hitters and go with your lights out reliever there. Yes, in the sixth inning.

Brutus · 09-05-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kc61

As I said in the game thread - in advance of the spot - you cannot leave Homer Bailey in to face Pujols or Holliday in a tight sixth inning spot.

He often falters in the middle innings at this stage of his career.

Had Dusty brought Masset in to face Pujols or Holliday there, the Reds likely win the game.

You have to know your pitchers. Let Homer develop some other time.

Jay, Pujols, Holliday were facing Homer for the third time in the game. Pitch count was irrelevant. The Cards have very few dangerous hitters, you treat them like dangerous hitters and go with your lights out reliever there. Yes, in the sixth inning.

The kid had 60 pitches at that point and was pitching a gem.

No reason to remove him. That's kind of overreacting to one hit.

Kc61 · 09-05-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

The kid had 60 pitches at that point and was pitching a gem.

No reason to remove him. That's kind of overreacting to one hit.

The reason to remove him is that this is a pennant race. April-May managing moves don't apply.

Cannot let Bailey face those hitters a third time with men on base in a close game against Carpenter.

You have a lights out reliever in Masset, a righty to face Pujols and Holliday, use him there, let him finish the sixth and pitch the seventh.

Now Reds lost that game and face an uphill game against Jiminez tomorrow.

This game was winnable, but it required more aggressive pitching management.

Brutus · 09-05-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kc61

The reason to remove him is that this is a pennant race. April-May managing moves don't apply.

Cannot let Bailey face those hitters a third time with men on base in a close game against Carpenter.

You have a lights out reliever in Masset, a righty to face Pujols and Holliday, use him there, let him finish the sixth and pitch the seventh.

Now Reds lost that game and face an uphill game against Jiminez tomorrow.

This game was winnable, but it required more aggressive pitching management.

You can't go jerking out starting pitchers at the first sign of trouble in the 6th inning when he's previously given up one single run and 60-some pitches. I don't care if it's a pennant race or not... that's far too reactionary.

It's a pennant race, but it's not do-or-die. They're up 7 games with 25 to play... that's pretty significant. No use in acting like it's game 7 of the World Series because he'd given up a solo double with 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_ · 09-05-2010, 05:14 PM

Let's remember, there's no certainty that the bullpen coming in would've shut the Cards down either. Dusty brought in Ondrusek after Bailey and he promptly allowed back to back singles after the leadoff guy grounded out. Even IF Dusty went to the pen for Pujols & Holliday, I'm pretty sure it still would've been Ondrusek. I'll take Homer over Logan especially considering how he was pitching. I'm pretty certain that it WOULDN'T have been Masset if Dusty did go to the pen there.

Tough loss. But we're still up big...not the end of the world. (still ticked over that IBB though)

09-05-2010, 03:39 PM	#1
Brutus Et tu, Brutus? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 8,931	September Scoreboard Watching I figured since the Part 2 scoreboard thread seemingly ran its course, we'd go to Part 3 - September edition. If that's OK with the mods. Currently, the Braves and Marlins are tied at 6 apiece going into the bottom of the Marlins' 9th. Milwaukee leads 5-2 over the Phillies in the bottom of the 6th. San Diego, on a 9-game losing streak, plays Colorado this afternoon. Reds currently have homefield advantage for the playoffs a game ahead of Atlanta and 2 1/2 over San Diego. __________________ "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

09-05-2010, 03:40 PM	#2
11larkin11 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bellefontaine,OH Posts: 2,287	Re: September Scoreboard Watching If we're going to maintain homefield advantage, I hope Philly overtakes Atlanta in the East. __________________ Domo Arigato, Here Comes Joey Votto ---TRF "I do what I want to do and say what I want to say." --Bronson Arroyo

09-05-2010, 04:01 PM	#4
Brutus Et tu, Brutus? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 8,931	Re: September Scoreboard Watching Marlins knock off the Braves in the bottom of the 9th with a walk-off single. __________________ "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

09-05-2010, 04:14 PM	#5
Tony Cloninger Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 5,100	Re: September Scoreboard Watching One team I do not understand how they keep winning...is the Yankees. Burnett is garbage. They have someone named Nova starting...and while I rail on their ability to buy a pennant last year..... they are able to get Marcus Thames? To hit the way he has for them. All of a sudden Woods is pitching lights out (he is still walking people)..... even with Jeter hitting like Paul janish...they still win.

09-05-2010, 04:43 PM	#6
Brutus Et tu, Brutus? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 8,931	Re: September Scoreboard Watching Brew crew leads 6-2 heading to the bottom of 9 in Philadelphia __________________ "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

09-05-2010, 04:50 PM	#7
aubashbrother Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brookneal , VA. Posts: 530	Re: September Scoreboard Watching After todays game It made yesterdays win sooo much bigger. Go in with 8 game lead and come out with 7 game lead facing the pitchers we faced. Ill take it __________________ 2009 Redszone MLB Mock Draft 1st Round - Steven Strasburg 1st Round - Matt Purke 2nd Round - Brett Jackson 3rd Round - Kent Matthes

09-05-2010, 04:53 PM	#8
Brutus Et tu, Brutus? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 8,931	Re: September Scoreboard Watching Brewers win. The Braves, Reds and Phillies all falter today. __________________ "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

09-05-2010, 05:02 PM	#11
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,833	Re: September Scoreboard Watching As I said in the game thread - in advance of the spot - you cannot leave Homer Bailey in to face Pujols or Holliday in a tight sixth inning spot. He often falters in the middle innings at this stage of his career. Had Dusty brought Masset in to face Pujols or Holliday there, the Reds likely win the game. You have to know your pitchers. Let Homer develop some other time. Jay, Pujols, Holliday were facing Homer for the third time in the game. Pitch count was irrelevant. The Cards have very few dangerous hitters, you treat them like dangerous hitters and go with your lights out reliever there. Yes, in the sixth inning.

09-05-2010, 05:14 PM	#15
_Sir_Charles_ 2013 NL MVP and WS MVP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 6,381	Re: September Scoreboard Watching Let's remember, there's no certainty that the bullpen coming in would've shut the Cards down either. Dusty brought in Ondrusek after Bailey and he promptly allowed back to back singles after the leadoff guy grounded out. Even IF Dusty went to the pen for Pujols & Holliday, I'm pretty sure it still would've been Ondrusek. I'll take Homer over Logan especially considering how he was pitching. I'm pretty certain that it WOULDN'T have been Masset if Dusty did go to the pen there. Tough loss. But we're still up big...not the end of the world. (still ticked over that IBB though) __________________

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