Brett Favre's Cellphone Seduction Of Jenn Sterger

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

It's also their responsibility to use discretion on what should and shouldn't be reported. Unless Favre is being accused of harassment and/or sexual assault of some kind, which has not been alleged in any capacity that I'm aware of, this isn't news and it most certainly shouldn't be any basis for investigation by the NFL. The league and everyone else needs to keep their noses out of where it doesn't belong.

Sexual habits of athletes should be off-limits. We don't really have the right to know what they do behind closed doors.

I don't care if Favre talks dirty, Grady Sizemore sends nude sexting pics to his girlfriend or Tiger Woods makes porn tapes. That's between them, their partners, and if applicable, their spouses.

There is a difference between what people are doing with their spouses/girlfriends/boyfriends/other consenting adults and what people are doing that happens to cross the line. Unsolicited photos of your stuff to a reporter is kind of over the line.

Of the things you mentioned, did MLB do anything about Grady? PGA with Tiger? How about Oden and the NBA? No, because it was stupid stuff that wasn't really anyone else's business. But when a player starts to look like a predator, yeah, they're gonna get involved.

[Sea Ray]

Originally Posted by Chip R

The Deadspin editor on the story says it's possible that whoever sent the texts and voice mails may not have been Favre.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5670800

Yes, it is possible but if that's the case why didn't Favre just say it wasn't him and end it? Instead he's evaded the whole thing

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by Sea Ray

Yes, it is possible but if that's the case why didn't Favre just say it wasn't him and end it? Instead he's evaded the whole thing

The editor has to say that b/c he has no concrete proof that it is him.

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by Chip R

I'm not a Favre fan because of the way he's handled this retirement/non-retirement issue but aside from this, what has he done to be a dirtbag? Unlike many of his brethren - and many of the Bengals - he's never been arrested. He plays hard and plays every game. He's a Super Bowl champion and he's personable enough.

He does have a history of cheating on his wife, I believe.

[cincrazy]

Originally Posted by Chip R

I'm not a Favre fan because of the way he's handled this retirement/non-retirement issue but aside from this, what has he done to be a dirtbag? Unlike many of his brethren - and many of the Bengals - he's never been arrested. He plays hard and plays every game. He's a Super Bowl champion and he's personable enough.

He's cheated on his wife numerous times over the years. Over and over and over and over. The guy is selfish, he's all about Brett. Always has been, always will be. Time doesn't change that.

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by edabbs44

There is a difference between what people are doing with their spouses/girlfriends/boyfriends/other consenting adults and what people are doing that happens to cross the line. Unsolicited photos of your stuff to a reporter is kind of over the line.

Of the things you mentioned, did MLB do anything about Grady? PGA with Tiger? How about Oden and the NBA? No, because it was stupid stuff that wasn't really anyone else's business. But when a player starts to look like a predator, yeah, they're gonna get involved.

I think I made it pretty clear, though, that we have absolutely no evidence (or even an allegation) this was unsolicited.

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by cincrazy

He's cheated on his wife numerous times over the years. Over and over and over and over. The guy is selfish, he's all about Brett. Always has been, always will be. Time doesn't change that.

You just described nearly half the male, married population.

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by cincrazy

Whether this story is true or not, Bretty Favre has been, and always will be, a dirtbag.

Then again, that's the case for 99% of professional athletes. They have a sense of entitlement that most normal people just simply don't have.

I 100% vehemently disagree with this. Our whole society has a sense of entitlement.

You know how many people abuse unemployment? You know how many people think they have a right to hold their job, even though their employer, short of a specified employment contract, could can them at any time. There is probably an endless list of examples of the type of entitlement people show in everyday life.

Athletes are no different than us. They just get more money and more attention.

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

I think I made it pretty clear, though, that we have absolutely no evidence (or even an allegation) this was unsolicited.

OK...does this do enough?

Sterger claimed she spurned Favre's advances because he was married, but also because she was working for the Jets at the time she didn't think it was the best idea to start a torrid affair with the team's highest profile player (the Jets have not responded to a question about any knowledge of the Favre/Sterger saga at this time). Plus, if she went forward with how aggressive he was and how skeeved out she was to some of her superiors, she suspected she might lose her job. The interactions were flirty and strange but she didn't think there wasn't anything that made her too uncomfortable. But then, one night, Sterger received a picture on her phone which was so shocking that she just tossed it across the room.

http://deadspin.com/5603701/brett-fa...t-a-love-story

Hit the link and read the 4th paragraph down. I stopped there since it gets a little more descriptive.

[cincrazy]

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

You just described nearly half the male, married population.

Look, I'm not going to get into a morality argument on an internet message board, that's a mine field, and I'm not looking to start an epic brawl around here. I was just stating an opinion. Take it or leave it.

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by edabbs44

OK...does this do enough?



http://deadspin.com/5603701/brett-fa...t-a-love-story

Hit the link and read the 4th paragraph down. I stopped there since it gets a little more descriptive.

Fair enough. But consider that's just one side of the story.

A lot of people have been known to do things with full willingness then later said it was without their cooperation.

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

Fair enough. But consider that's just one side of the story.

A lot of people have been known to do things with full willingness then later said it was without their cooperation.

Absolutely. But at least this gives a legitimate reason for the NFL to look into the matter.

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by cincrazy

Look, I'm not going to get into a morality argument on an internet message board, that's a mine field, and I'm not looking to start an epic brawl around here. I was just stating an opinion. Take it or leave it.

That it's an internet message board is the exact reason why I should be able to respond to a fairly specific character assassination of an athlete, especially when you could say the same about millions of married adults in this country. If cheating makes you selfish, unfortunately our country is quite selfish.

It doesn't have to be an "epic brawl" as you put it. You can state an opinion, I can respectfully disagree and state why I think that opinion is a little overboard, and you're free to back it up.

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by edabbs44

Absolutely. But at least this gives a legitimate reason for the NFL to look into the matter.

But when have you known the NFL to look into something and determine it's none of their business if the facts don't warrant it? The NFL is acting like the gestapo lately with off-the-field issues, and frankly it feels a bit extreme.

I don't know about you, but I don't care what athletes do off the field. If they do something illegal, they'll be punished by the courts. If they do something immoral within their marriage, it's between them and their spouses.

I just don't see what business it is of the NFL. And mind you, I have no problem with the teams, their employers, firing them or fining them for some of their actions, as that's something an employer might do if we did something. But the league itself should't need to come in and become the moral police.

I root for athletes because of their talent, not because of their character. If they do something wrong, I trust they'll punished in the only court that really matters: the court of law, rather than the court of public opinion. I know the NFL is trying to keep its 'image' from being tarnished, but Roger Gooddell's witch hunt of all things immorality in his league is doing more to tarnish things for me personally than his athletes are.

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

But when have you known the NFL to look into something and determine it's none of their business if the facts don't warrant it? The NFL is acting like the gestapo lately with off-the-field issues, and frankly it feels a bit extreme.

I don't know about you, but I don't care what athletes do off the field. If they do something illegal, they'll be punished by the courts. If they do something immoral within their marriage, it's between them and their spouses.

I just don't see what business it is of the NFL. And mind you, I have no problem with the teams, their employers, firing them or fining them for some of their actions, as that's something an employer might do if we did something. But the league itself should't need to come in and become the moral police.

I root for athletes because of their talent, not because of their character. If they do something wrong, I trust they'll punished in the only court that really matters: the court of law, rather than the court of public opinion. I know the NFL is trying to keep its 'image' from being tarnished, but Roger Gooddell's witch hunt of all things immorality in his league is doing more to tarnish things for me personally than his athletes are.

There are plenty of employers who take certain things into account, especially those things that harm the reputation of your franchise's brand. If Favre worked for Apple and this story made its way around the world identifying him as an Apple executive, do you think they'd sit there and do nothing? Or do you think that HR, Legal, PR and Senior Management would be heavily involved?