Prospect #33 Runoff

[camisadelgolf]

Mark Fleury or Jake Johnson?

[dougdirt]

Johnson.

[texasdave]

If there is a runoff for a position - like say # 33 - the winner should get # 33, the loser should get # 34 and the next poll should be for number # 35, IMHO. Just a thought.

[camisadelgolf]

Originally Posted by texasdave

If there is a runoff for a position - like say # 33 - the winner should get # 33, the loser should get # 34 and the next poll should be for number # 35, IMHO. Just a thought.

This is a conversation we have ever year. It turns out that when we start the next ballot with the loser of the runoff vote going against the other prospects, the loser of the runoff vote doesn't necessarily win the next poll. Therefore, it's probably a better representation of RedsZone to do it this way.

[RED VAN HOT]

Johnson, based on the Reds' seeming to fast track him. My only concern is that his IP jumped from 48 to 129 last year.

[HokieRed]

Johnson. He should probably be higher.

[camisadelgolf]

Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT

Johnson, based on the Reds' seeming to fast track him. My only concern is that his IP jumped from 48 to 129 last year.

Don't forget about his high school innings.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT

Johnson, based on the Reds' seeming to fast track him. My only concern is that his IP jumped from 48 to 129 last year.

Except it didn't. You aren't counting any of the innings he threw in high school in 2009. While the innings aren't the same type of innings, he certainly threw more than 48 innings in 2009.

Edit: Should have read the entire thread. Camisadelgolf covered this.

[Scrap Irony]

I thought reports on Johnson were fairly positive as it related to "stuff". Low 90's fastball, decent breaking stuff, work to do on a change-up. Am I remembering him or someone else?

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by Scrap Irony

I thought reports on Johnson were fairly positive as it related to "stuff". Low 90's fastball, decent breaking stuff, work to do on a change-up. Am I remembering him or someone else?

Could be him, though his fastball is more 87-91 rather than low 90's.

[marcshoe]

I'm curious about Johnson--why are the Reds fast-tracking him? What, specifically, did they see? His numbers don't jump out at me, but apparently there's something there if they're going to move him up at age 20.

[mace]

He's reputed to be extremely coachable, bright, great makeup, all that sort of thing. Plus, it would seem that his body is pretty mature. It all adds up to just being ready for it, I suppose.

[RED VAN HOT]

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Except it didn't. You aren't counting any of the innings he threw in high school in 2009. While the innings aren't the same type of innings, he certainly threw more than 48 innings in 2009.

Edit: Should have read the entire thread. Camisadelgolf covered this.

I did neglect to consider his HS innings. Still, it seems to me that the Reds usually move HS pitchers more slowly.

[dougdirt]

Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT

I did neglect to consider his HS innings. Still, it seems to me that the Reds usually move HS pitchers more slowly.

It depends on the pitcher. JC Sulbaran went to Dayton in his first full season. So did Kyle Lotzkar. No one did in 2007. Travis Wood did in 2006. Homer Bailey did in 2005. It seems like it is usually 1 guy per season who goes from high school one year to Dayton the next year. But, I think that could be more due to drafting college players earlier than they do high schoolers for the most part.