5/23/11 - Reds at Phillies

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Originally Posted by kaldaniels

Never let facts get in the way of a good narrative 44.

5-0 Phils

Yea, I'm really exaggerating how awful this starting pitching has been. So Cueto got into the 8th once. He also can't beat the pirates at home.

Nice job doing nothing to improve this team all winter Walt!

[kaldaniels]

Originally Posted by Red in Chicago

why does it take thom until the bottom of the 3rd to discuss the roster moves today? most of us don't get to hear / see reds live...

Anything "controversial" or "negative to the franchise" is always brushed under the rug I've noticed.

See the Leake incident.

[reds44]

Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan

Yea, I'm really exaggerating how awful this starting pitching has been. So Cueto got into the 8th once. He also can't beat the pirates at home.

Nice job doing nothing to improve this team all winter Walt!

Cueto is 2-1 with a 1.45 ERA right now and that's who you target?

[reds44]

Originally Posted by kaldaniels

Anything "controversial" or "negative to the franchise" is always brushed under the rug I've noticed.

See the Leake incident.

Speaking of Leake he's given up 3 runs in 2 innings tonight in AAA.

[757690]

Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey

You have no idea if this is true or not. I can't say I'm absolutely sure it would cost them a game (or three) and you can't say you're absolutely sure it wouldn't. Neither of us know for sure.

But it definitely COULD cost them a win. Janish can't hit and can't get on base. But he's likely going to get more ABs than a better hitter in a particular game if you bat him second. That could cost you a win very easily. If you need a punch-and-judy hitter like Janish in your lineup due to defense, you bat him eighth. Only Dusty (who I otherwise like) can't see this.

1. Batting order really doesn't have much effect on runs scored.
2. Janish will get pinch hit for in any crucial situation.
3. Games are decided by a collection of factors, the most important ones are who plays and who doesn't. Factors as small as where players are batting do not decide games on their own.

[kaldaniels]

Originally Posted by reds44

Cueto is 2-1 with a 1.45 ERA right now and that's who you target?

When the facts get drawn out, you gotta fight to the death. Pull no punches

[kaldaniels]

9 to 0

[reds44]

Ehehehehe we're back to being the Reds.

[Red in Chicago]

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Originally Posted by reds44

Cueto is 2-1 with a 1.45 ERA right now and that's who you target?

Not targeting Cueto. Him and Bailey are the best of this bunch.

This team is flat-out bad.

[reds44]

This team is screwing around with too many bad pieces right now.

Sooner or later Jocketty and Baker will realize they need to change some stuff. Like the SS, LFer, and bullpen.

[kaldaniels]

Originally Posted by 757690

1. Batting order really doesn't have much effect on runs scored.
2. Janish will get pinch hit for in any crucial situation.
3. Games are decided by a collection of factors, the most important ones are who plays and who doesn't. Factors as small as where players are batting do not decide games on their own.

So a small factor like if Votto bats 9th, would never decide a game?

[Quatitos]

Looks like Arroyo decided tonight would be his annual throw away game. Not a good time for that.

[CrackerJack]

Originally Posted by kaldaniels

When the facts get drawn out, you gotta fight to the death. Pull no punches

I don't think mentioning that "one" starter in "one" game has gone past the 7th all year so far changes his original point any though.

[Reds Fanatic]

I think Arroyo has bigger problems than just Mono. He is taking an absolute beating. This reminds me of the game in Toronto a few years back.