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redsfaninbsg · 07-10-2011, 05:05 PM

Look, I'm not one to think that a manager has a big impact on games, but this has gotten to the point that it's ridiculous. It's one of those things that we don't have stats to examine how good/bad a manager is but I seriously doubt anybody that watches the Reds on a day to day basis thinks he's doing a good job. Cordero was obviously spent today and to leave him in the game with a full complement of players in the pen with the break coming up is inexcusable. Pythag is supposed to be great indication but when your manager keeps losing game after game it's no wonder the real record is not an indication of what the pythag record says the Reds should be. If nothing else, maybe this will be Dusty's last stint in professional baseball at the end of this campaign.

Brutus · 07-10-2011, 05:06 PM

Oh look, another knee-jerk thread!

Quatitos · 07-10-2011, 05:07 PM

Wasn't a thread almost exactly like this closed yesterday?

reds1869 · 07-10-2011, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

Oh look, another knee-jerk thread!

45-47. I won't accuse anyone of a knee-jerk reaction at this point.

alexad · 07-10-2011, 05:08 PM

FIRE DUSTY! This team needs someone like Billy Martin as the manager. Kick someones butt and take names later. He has this team Oma complete mess. The bullpen is a mess.

redsfaninbsg · 07-10-2011, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

Oh look, another knee-jerk thread!

It aint April, or May, or even June. Simply put, he's not good. Call it knee-jerk, stupid, shameful, what have you. If you support him, more power to you.

Brutus · 07-10-2011, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quatitos

Wasn't a thread almost exactly like this closed yesterday?

Yes

redsfaninbsg · 07-10-2011, 05:11 PM

For all I know, this one may get closed too. I think it's time we actually discuss the manager's qualities and faults. We discuss players til the end of time, I'm not sure why a logical thread on the manager wouldn't be ok?

RedRoser · 07-10-2011, 05:14 PM

Couldn't agree more! It's getting tougher and tougher as we lose games we should have won, mainly due to managerial decisions. I would have never put Cordero on the mound three consecutive days, and if I did, it was obvious he needed to come out after hitting Weeks in the head.
This is just one of countless times I have wished that someone other than Dusty Baker was managing the Reds.
Call it knee jerk if you wish, but most of us who have been around this game for a long time and know baseball, well we know better.

Reds fan since '59 but not enjoying watching this team under current management. I've considered buying tickets on several occasions this season, but will not do so until something changes. It may very well be the first year since I was 7 years old that I don't take a trip to Cincinnati.

---'Roser

Redhook · 07-10-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp

Oh look, another knee-jerk thread!

Wrong. 92 games of disappointing and uninspiring baseball led by a man that's not optimizing his team's chances of winning.

Kc61 · 07-10-2011, 05:26 PM

What makes this most upsetting is that the team played really hard today, tough, grind it out baseball.

Giving away a game like this hurts, especially against the first place club.

fearofpopvol1 · 07-10-2011, 05:29 PM

The whole series was painful sans Saturday. The Reds easily could've swept or at least won 3 out of 4, which would've had them sitting pretty.

I think Dusty definitely deserves blame here. Using Cordero in a non-save situation, using him 3 days in a row and 4 out of 5 is really unfathomable, especially when you consider how many pitches he threw over that time span.

Tony Cloninger · 07-10-2011, 05:41 PM

Hire Billy....Fire Billy....Hire Bob Lemon....Fire Bob Lemon....Hire Billy again.

Fire...Calm....Fire....Calm. It worked for the Bronx Zoo....it can work for Cincy.

Ron Madden · 07-10-2011, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRoser

Couldn't agree more! It's getting tougher and tougher as we lose games we should have won, mainly due to managerial decisions. I would have never put Cordero on the mound three consecutive days, and if I did, it was obvious he needed to come out after hitting Weeks in the head.
This is just one of countless times I have wished that someone other than Dusty Baker was managing the Reds.Call it knee jerk if you wish, but most of us who have been around this game for a long time and know baseball, well we know better.

Reds fan since '59 but not enjoying watching this team under current management. I've considered buying tickets on several occasions this season, but will not do so until something changes. It may very well be the first year since I was 7 years old that I don't take a trip to Cincinnati.

---'Roser

Agreed.

Guacarock · 07-10-2011, 05:54 PM

Look at it this way. We got a good look today at the D Train and then we saw a derailed train wreck. The problem with this wreck. It wasn't an accident. Most anyone with any sense could see it coming a mile off.

07-10-2011, 05:05 PM	#1
redsfaninbsg Posting from Southwest VA Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 669	Dusty Baker Look, I'm not one to think that a manager has a big impact on games, but this has gotten to the point that it's ridiculous. It's one of those things that we don't have stats to examine how good/bad a manager is but I seriously doubt anybody that watches the Reds on a day to day basis thinks he's doing a good job. Cordero was obviously spent today and to leave him in the game with a full complement of players in the pen with the break coming up is inexcusable. Pythag is supposed to be great indication but when your manager keeps losing game after game it's no wonder the real record is not an indication of what the pythag record says the Reds should be. If nothing else, maybe this will be Dusty's last stint in professional baseball at the end of this campaign. __________________ This is the ol Left Hander rounding third and heading for home.

07-10-2011, 05:06 PM	#2
Brutus Et tu, Brutus? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, Ga. Posts: 8,928	Re: Dusty Baker Oh look, another knee-jerk thread! __________________ "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

07-10-2011, 05:07 PM	#3
Quatitos Dyslexic Taquitos Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 321	Re: Dusty Baker Wasn't a thread almost exactly like this closed yesterday?

07-10-2011, 05:08 PM	#5
alexad HS Athletic Director Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cleves, Ohio Posts: 1,165	FIRE DUSTY! This team needs someone like Billy Martin as the manager. Kick someones butt and take names later. He has this team Oma complete mess. The bullpen is a mess. __________________ Taylor High School Home of the "Yellowjackets"

07-10-2011, 05:11 PM	#8
redsfaninbsg Posting from Southwest VA Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 669	Re: Dusty Baker For all I know, this one may get closed too. I think it's time we actually discuss the manager's qualities and faults. We discuss players til the end of time, I'm not sure why a logical thread on the manager wouldn't be ok? __________________ This is the ol Left Hander rounding third and heading for home. Last edited by redsfaninbsg; 07-10-2011 at 05:23 PM.

07-10-2011, 05:14 PM	#9
RedRoser "A Rose by Any Other. . " Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 3,289	Re: Dusty Baker Couldn't agree more! It's getting tougher and tougher as we lose games we should have won, mainly due to managerial decisions. I would have never put Cordero on the mound three consecutive days, and if I did, it was obvious he needed to come out after hitting Weeks in the head. This is just one of countless times I have wished that someone other than Dusty Baker was managing the Reds. Call it knee jerk if you wish, but most of us who have been around this game for a long time and know baseball, well we know better. Reds fan since '59 but not enjoying watching this team under current management. I've considered buying tickets on several occasions this season, but will not do so until something changes. It may very well be the first year since I was 7 years old that I don't take a trip to Cincinnati. ---'Roser

07-10-2011, 05:26 PM	#11
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,828	Re: Dusty Baker What makes this most upsetting is that the team played really hard today, tough, grind it out baseball. Giving away a game like this hurts, especially against the first place club.

07-10-2011, 05:29 PM	#12
fearofpopvol1 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 8,628	Re: Dusty Baker The whole series was painful sans Saturday. The Reds easily could've swept or at least won 3 out of 4, which would've had them sitting pretty. I think Dusty definitely deserves blame here. Using Cordero in a non-save situation, using him 3 days in a row and 4 out of 5 is really unfathomable, especially when you consider how many pitches he threw over that time span.

07-10-2011, 05:41 PM	#13
Tony Cloninger Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 5,099	Re: Dusty Baker Hire Billy....Fire Billy....Hire Bob Lemon....Fire Bob Lemon....Hire Billy again. Fire...Calm....Fire....Calm. It worked for the Bronx Zoo....it can work for Cincy.

07-10-2011, 05:54 PM	#15
Guacarock SSG, Red Army Choir Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico Posts: 1,119	Re: Dusty Baker Look at it this way. We got a good look today at the D Train and then we saw a derailed train wreck. The problem with this wreck. It wasn't an accident. Most anyone with any sense could see it coming a mile off.

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